Old 02-13-2008, 06:46 AM   #1
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Well, let's see if y'all can be some help.


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Old 02-13-2008, 07:14 AM   #2
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Well, the first, I honestly do think the train is a bit too far away, waiting just a hair more would have done the trick. The 2nd one, I like the train the way it is, maybe even crop some of the right off JUST A BIT, not too much. The platform there is what I don't like, I don't know how'd you get away with that. If you have the original, maybe zoom in so that the right side is where you want it, thus some of the platform should be cropped out too. I like them none the less
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Old 02-13-2008, 01:10 PM   #3
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A little distortion correction and crop on the 2nd one. Randy, I also see a sensor dust spot on the right side of the image just above the two poles.
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:45 PM   #4
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Funny thing is the second one I would have gotten for rotation, cropping, sun to straight down the nose, the track is almost all shadows. The first shot though if you would have made the train be the least prominent thing in the photo it would have been approved. Sorry couldn't resist a little joking around. The first one is backlit too.
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Not to put a damper on the situation, but I think that these photos are underexposed and may be hit with that rejection. I'd try brightening them up a little bit and adjusting the contrast before resubmission.
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:39 PM   #6
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I think both of them have too much sky visible. Perhaps if you were to crop/retake the photos so that the mountains in the background are above the centerline of the photo that may help.
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Old 02-14-2008, 12:38 AM   #7
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I appreciate the input. I'll be putting some of it to use.

I liked the sky and the mountains and their relationship to the train. I'll probably crop the one where the train was too far away so that it appears closer. However, here's a quote from another thread that reflects how I feel:

"...I'm a big fan of shots which compare the relative insignificance of the train to the vastness of its surroundings, and whether we're talking about towering mountains, plains that go on for miles, or the heavens, I think there's a place in our database for these types of shots." - Chris Kilroy

Hmmm.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:06 AM   #8
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I appreciate the input. I'll be putting some of it to use.

I liked the sky and the mountains and their relationship to the train. I'll probably crop the one where the train was too far away so that it appears closer. However, here's a quote from another thread that reflects how I feel:

"...I'm a big fan of shots which compare the relative insignificance of the train to the vastness of its surroundings, and whether we're talking about towering mountains, plains that go on for miles, or the heavens, I think there's a place in our database for these types of shots." - Chris Kilroy

Hmmm.
On the first one, the crouch down to rail level takes away from this goal. It makes the train bigger - the top of the power is higher than the ridge behind it, for example. And the excessive foreground also takes away from this goal. The rock in the lower right corner, for example, that draws the eye away from "big" toward "small." Same with the gravel lower left.

Second one, similar issues. The platform marking is too strong - it takes the eye away from the vastness and toward the mundane. And the mountains are greatly diminished in the frame. It's now just a wedgie with a bit of a hint of mountains; the grandeur is gone.

To my eyes your desired feel is not coming through.
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Mountains are big, make them look that way. In other words, zoom in.

There are situations where vistas work (usually overheard shots) and others that do not. These two simply do not and cannot because of the angle.
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I guess these two ain't gonna make it . Further comments welcome.

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That relatively plain blue sky is just not helping. You are devoting a lot of space to it in both shots, and there isn't much to see. Also, for the shot with the train on the left fringe, you have a potentially interesting subject, the windmills, but they are quite distant and a bit formless. And it doesn't help that the train is in shadow on the visible side.

The other shot, with different cropping, might eventually become a standard wedgie with a wee bit of mountains in the background.
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Old 02-14-2008, 05:01 AM   #12
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Yeah, including that much sky when you have mountains to include is like using a wheelchair when you can walk fine. Leave the blue sky and no background to those of us who have that as our only option!
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Yeah, including that much sky when you have mountains to include is like using a wheelchair when you can walk fine. Leave the blue sky and no background to those of us who have that as our only option!
You have some nice grain elevators also!
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You have some nice grain elevators also!
But they're more subject than background most of the time!
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But they're more subject than background most of the time!
Oh, just go out again and snowmobile a pattern into your foreground snow, like you did last time, and stop whining! None of the rest of us can create our own scenery any time we want it.

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The other shot, with different cropping, might eventually become a standard wedgie with a wee bit of mountains in the background.
Oh great. If I work reeeal hard I can produce another great wedgie. I want to thank the academy and all the little people for this award.

I'm gonna go beat my camera for letting me take these shots. Bad camera!

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My personal opinion, they are a little to dark. It needs MORE light. If you have A program that will "lighten it up" try doing that and resubmiting it
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