Old 05-07-2013, 10:30 PM   #1
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Got a backlog of photos I want to ask advice about, here's the first:

I think this one got unlevel or cropping or some nonsense, here's 4 versions of it




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Old 05-07-2013, 10:38 PM   #2
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Well....They are unlevel and cropped badly...
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Of the shots, I like version 3 the best for RP. The cropping there is pretty good. The issue is not so much unlevel as the wide-angle distortion. If you fix that up, I think you might be ok. But then again, what do I know? I'm not a screener.

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I think 1 is to wide and the rest are too tight, I think something right in between would work. Also you should really have cloned that wire.
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In all honesty, I think that the in your face fence post at the base of the flag pole is the killer. I like the rest of the photo.
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#3, by far, is the best. Leveling this shot might be tricky in some ways because a lot of the verticals are not lining up with one another. But the train itself is certainly leaning CCW. That may be because the bridge is slanted, but it may also be a case of making the shot look level as opposed to it actually being level, if that makes sense.
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In all honesty, I think that the in your face fence post at the base of the flag pole is the killer. I like the rest of the photo.
I agree that the fence post is a trouble spot (and the flag pole behind it, needs to be some seperation.) The fence pole is bad to me because it is cut off.
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#3, by far, is the best. Leveling this shot might be tricky in some ways because a lot of the verticals are not lining up with one another. But the train itself is certainly leaning CCW. That may be because the bridge is slanted, but it may also be a case of making the shot look level as opposed to it actually being level, if that makes sense.
It's an extreme wide angle shot with the bridge actually at an angle to me and it's on a 1.5% grade, so it appears to be more unlevel than it actually is. If you look at the few actual vertical things in the shot like the flagpole and power poles, they are pretty close.

And yes, hindsight 20/20 I would have had the fencepost out of the shot.
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I'm not hopeful, but I'd at least start with #1, as in that one the post is the least in-your-face. Frankly, I didn't even realize there was a flagpole until I saw EMT's comment; I didn't look carefully at first and though someone had just taped a flag on a stick to the post, for a holiday.

Maybe your best alternative is to do a full perspective correction and then crop the post/flag entirely, just have the fence running up to the bridge as the foreground element.
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It's an extreme wide angle shot with the bridge actually at an angle to me and it's on a 1.5% grade, so it appears to be more unlevel than it actually is. If you look at the few actual vertical things in the shot like the flagpole and power poles, they are pretty close.
Certainly a case then of making it look level for RP rather than actually being level.
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The first shot has the bridge closest to being right. It is indeed nearly a 1.5 percent grade, but you've got the bridge leaning the wrong way in images 3-4

The total rise from end to end of the 682' bridge is just over 10', and the grade is uphill from right to left in your photo. If those were pushers; they are coasting, if they are leaders; they would be in notch 8 pulling.

And Coopers is a pain in the butt to shoot at. All that potential ruined by bad angles, bad lighting, and foliage / powerlines.

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How about this?

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Much better.

The part-o-flag was bugging me.
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The wide angle distortion is killin' me!
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The wide angle distortion is killin' me!
It is what it is at 17mm on full frame. You should see it before any editing.
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Remember, I have a 5D as well. I've fixed plenty of shots at 17mm (and more recently 10mm on my 60D with the purchase of a 10-22).
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Remember, I have a 5D as well. I've fixed plenty of shots at 17mm (and more recently 10mm on my 60D with the purchase of a 10-22).
So you are saying I should have taken more time trying to fix the distortion rather than changing the black dash 9's to heritage units?
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So you are saying I should have taken more time trying to fix the distortion rather than changing the black dash 9's to heritage units?
You didn't just clone out the black Dash 9 that was actually leading the train?

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You didn't just clone out the black Dash 9 that was actually leading the train?

I got pictures of them too. Only so much time in the day.

So, is that edit worth submitting or other suggestions?
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So you are saying I should have taken more time trying to fix the distortion rather than changing the black dash 9's to heritage units?
You slay me.
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The most recent version doesn't seem right to me. Too much sky, not enough room under the train.
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The most recent version doesn't seem right to me. Too much sky, not enough room under the train.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...90&key=2871967

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Probably not enough foreground and too much sky, but ...

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I'm going to go against the grain (and with J) and say the widest is the best version (number one). I would fix the distortion on that one and then a trim a little.
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