Old 08-11-2010, 04:06 AM   #1
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I have shots with both the loco and the reflection, but I wanted to be creative. Thoughts?
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Old 08-11-2010, 04:43 AM   #2
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I like the idea. Not crazy about the b&w conversion. It looks more grey than black and white. Also, it's very grainy. This shot as is would probably work pretty well on Flickr and some of their various groups. But for a railroad database, I'm not feeling it. With that said, you might can work a version of this shot onto Railpictures. But it probably needs to be looser than this crop. If not, maybe the one that shows the actual loco too might work better.
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:37 AM   #3
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Old 08-11-2010, 01:59 PM   #4
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Looser crop, like Joe said, but also show me more of the engine. For my tastes too much is lost at the bottom, as though the engine had run off the end of track into a gravel pile.
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It won't get on here, but I like it a lot, well done. The only thing I personally would suggest would be to move the whole composition "up" in the frame just a bit, i.e. have less sky on the top and more gravel on the bottom. The front of the diesel is big and dramatic, it can handle being near the edge of the frame.
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Color. Really like it.
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Maybe in color can work, the shot it's really nice!
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What is that stuff on the bottom of the picture?
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What is that stuff on the bottom of the picture?
exactly...
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What is that stuff on the bottom of the picture?
Gravel.

Round two: http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=844001&key=0

Still no luck...should I appeal?
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I would not appeal. I think they have spoken on this shot. Now, did you say you had one with both the actual loco and the locoflection? Also, it might sound kinda odd and pretty obvious, but you made no mention that it was a refletion shot in the caption. Explaining the puddle (recent rain? puddle always there? etc/) may have been more helpful to the screener in making his decision.
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You want to use a reflection to show us a picture within a picture. First and foremost the mini-photo you show us inside the reflection should be RP worthy by itself.
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but you made no mention that it was a refletion shot in the caption. Explaining the puddle (recent rain? puddle always there? etc/) may have been more helpful to the screener in making his decision.
I did make a screener's comment.

However, I will leave this one and go for the double-shot espresso.
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Your shot is pretty muddled, unlike John Ryan's crisp shot of SP 107.

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Additionally, I would want to see the lower part of the engine, too, if possible.
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