Old 09-22-2010, 05:32 AM   #51
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I'm ND an ice cold Pepsi right now. I'm NL to Celtic Crush on Sirius Spectrum. Thanks SnobsCar!

P.S. - Do I need to make a vague reference to "Garland" or "PD" to qualify in the Holy Order of Self Righteousness (HOSR is a medal higher than the Blue Max itself) that is SnobsCar?

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Speaking of Obscar - what is your favorite train movie? And what do you pack for lunch when you railfan Norfolk Southern?

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Old 09-22-2010, 06:25 AM   #52
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It doesn't feel totally like ObsCar in here just yet...wait...hold on..I got it...

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Old 09-22-2010, 06:34 AM   #53
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Holy crap... when did I wind up back in high school again?

Still like the smoking monkey and the smoking lobster though.
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Old 09-22-2010, 06:23 PM   #54
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Mitch,
I like it to a point. I like the idea and also like the heat distortion. It reminds me of a shot of a tie gang shot by Joel Jensen. I can't find it on the web but it is in the book Railroad Noir. I think some very unnoticeable vignetting would help draw focus to the center. The main killer to me is that the heat distortion is as bad as it is at the nearest point to the camera. If the clarity was better close to the camera that would help. The heat distortion says to me that it is a hot summer day and also adds a negative and anonymous aspects to trespassing.
http://www.joeljensenphoto.com/workers2.html

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Old 09-23-2010, 01:40 AM   #55
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Thanks for the comparison pic and kind comments, Travis.
(I wonder if that pic would've gotten past the screeners on RP?)

I'll be checking my Almanac trying to figure out when all the
stars and planets will line up to make such a shot plausible.

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Old 09-23-2010, 04:00 AM   #56
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Mitch,
I like it to a point. I like the idea and also like the heat distortion. It reminds me of a shot of a tie gang shot by Joel Jensen. I can't find it on the web but it is in the book Railroad Noir. I think some very unnoticeable vignetting would help draw focus to the center. The main killer to me is that the heat distortion is as bad as it is at the nearest point to the camera. If the clarity was better close to the camera that would help. The heat distortion says to me that it is a hot summer day and also adds a negative and anonymous aspects to trespassing.
http://www.joeljensenphoto.com/workers2.html
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Old 09-23-2010, 04:39 AM   #57
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I'm on the fence about this one. Maybe if the blur was softer, I like your idea though.

But in the end, the part of me who says this belongs on a police report outweighs all of that.

If he'd been hit, he'd prob sue Amtrak.
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I'm on the fence about this one. Maybe if the blur was softer, I like your idea though.

But in the end, the part of me who says this belongs on a police report outweighs all of that.

If he'd been hit, he'd prob sue Amtrak.
I doubt it seriously. Now, his family may have sued.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:00 AM   #59
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Default I really like it - it simply kicks ass!

I think it is interesting all the opinions put forth and the different side topics this image has brought up for discussion in this thread.


As for the image itself:

Would I have submitted it - sure.

Would I have appealed it - you bet.


Am I concerned about view numbers on my images - absolutely.

Does that make me a view whore?

Perhaps, but why would you want to continue submitting images that get 150 views each in their first week in the database and sit in the 500's for a year after that?

Isn't that the point in posting images on photo sites on the Internet -to share those images with other human beings and see how they like them, or how they are perceived by the chosen audience?

What I like the most about RP.Net is the comments that people make on my images because it shows that the image has caused the person to stop what they are doing at the moment and ponder what is being portrayed in the image.

Are all the comments on my images positive?

No, some are not and I am fascinated by what images cause the most controversy and why.

Does that mean these images don't belong on RP.Net?

I don't know, but I am glad they allowed me to put them there because as a photographer I have derived great satisfaction from the comments and e-mails I have received due to some of my submissions to the database.


Now with regard to the disputed image, Mr. Goldman was wildly successful in this regard because this thread has gone on for three pages, involved a number of the more respected contributors on this Site and spurred a number of discussions on other Sites as well.

And if that wasn't impressive enough, OMG, Mr. Goldman somehow summoned the Gods from Mount Olympus and they even weighed in on the subject.

How often does that happen?


Once again Mitch, my hat is off to you!


RANT BEGINS HERE:

Grab Shots

As for grab shots, what is the big deal?

Does the spontaneity of the production of the image somehow cheapen the presentation?

To answer that question I think one should consider how many of the past candidates and winners of the Pulitzer Prize in photography could be considered grab shots.

And why is that?

I think it has to do with how we as humans view the world around us, since we all quite literally seem to love a good train wreck and this Site provides irrefutable evidence of that fact.

Pictures of Trespassing

Another issue that I would like to comment about because it seems to be thrown around in this thread is the perception held by some in the train watching community that posting images of people walking on the tracks somehow encourages trespassing.

It is my observation that the people who are out doing this on a regular basis are not the ones who are out taking train pictures, or viewing them on this, and other RR Sites.

Consequently, drawing the conclusion that posting images of people trespassing somehow increases that behavior, or somehow promotes it, makes about as much sence as attempting to assert the argument that showing pictures of babies on the Internet somehow increases, or promotes teenage pregnancy.

Additionally, the disputed image is obviously greatly compressed and the distance from the man to the train could have been several hundred yards.

Moreover, he could have been walking on a sidewalk, or a road that is not visible in the image and not been trespassing at all.

I find it interesting that some people seem to take a look at what they see in an image, and then attempt to draw all kinds of inferences as to what is actually going on in the image, in an attempt to derive some meaning from it.

Some of us just post these images for the shear enjoyment and entertainment of others.

Many times there is no meaning, or message that the producer of the image is attempting to assert and therefore, the drawing of inferences or conclusions by some when viewing those images is just incorrect.


Anyway, that is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

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Old 09-23-2010, 06:54 AM   #60
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Holy crap... when did I wind up back in high school again?

Still like the smoking monkey and the smoking lobster though.
When I was in college my roommates went to Tijuana one weekend and brought back a bunch of those garish plaster monkey on a surfboard statues.

Remember those?



They thought is was really funny to stick joints in their mouths and light them up.

I took one outside (a monkey statue) and blasted it with a 12 Gauge.

I thought that was funny and the rest of them immediately disappeared from the common areas of the dorm room.

Thanks for causing that flashback Charles.

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Old 09-23-2010, 03:58 PM   #61
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I took one outside and blasted it with a 12 Gauge.
Ha! Sounds like something I would do!

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Not that what I think really matters but I like the shot. to me is shows how hot it really gets out their. Maybe he was barefoot and it was burning his feet as he was sprinting across the tracks.

As for getting on here, I would have tried to, but would have expected to get the same message I got the last few photos I tried to upload, PEQ.

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I personally have had a problem with those trying to tell us to turn railroad photography into an "art form." It's fine for them to do so, I welcome it in fact, but what I do have a problem with is that the practitioners of the more "arty" shots, I have found, tend to look down their nose's at others who are shooting more "mundane" shots.
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Perhaps Troy can use this item down in Bluefield.


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Remember that I will be there to protect him. He shouldn't need the truck
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