Old 08-18-2016, 01:37 AM   #1
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Default 1996 north Idaho washout on the UP

An aerial photo taken of a washout on UP's tracks leading to the CP interchange in Eastport, around a mile away. The washouts were caused by rapid snowmelt. Taken by my dad riding in a Blackhawk helicopter; he was working in the Army at the time. Camera info unknown, but certainly film. Posted with his permission.

The main problem I see with this picture is it might be a bit undersharpened, but I believe that this is scanned from a printed image, so maybe the original might have higher quality if he still has the original scan of the slide on his computer.
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Old 08-18-2016, 02:58 AM   #2
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The main problem for me is that shot really has very little interesting rail content - it's just a railway line severed in two with a bunch of vehicles around it.
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The main problem for me is that shot really has very little interesting rail content - it's just a railway line severed in two with a bunch of vehicles around it.
Well, there probably isn't going to be a train when the tracks are washed out. But I see what you mean.
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Old 08-18-2016, 05:44 AM   #4
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The main problem for me is that shot really has very little interesting rail content - it's just a railway line severed in two with a bunch of vehicles around it.
Sure, it needs to be sharper. As for interest, we've been treated to "the door", "the note", and maybe "the tie-date nail". So why not a washout?
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Sure, it needs to be sharper. As for interest, we've been treated to "the door", "the note", and maybe "the tie-date nail". So why not a washout?
Usually those kinds of images are either of a very unusual subject, or have some "graphical" interest that goes beyond the subject matter: composition, lighting, texture, color, or perhaps an angle that provides some drama, etc. Washouts are not all that usual, and that is a rather minor one. What is interesting or attractive graphically is highly personal, and usually that kind of image is more "art" than representational. So in terms of the washout image I can only speak for myself, I just don't find it very interesting regardless of the level of sharpness. But that is just me.
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Sure, it needs to be sharper. As for interest, we've been treated to "the door", "the note", and maybe "the tie-date nail". So why not a washout?
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He also got a picture of their helicopter landed on the tracks, but I'm unsure about if it would actually be an interesting shot, so I'm not posting it for now.
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I was amazed at the objections to the Viking photo. I admit there are more rail related photos of the boats being loaded etc but it is a nice photo of a classic.
I have photos of the Viking stuck in the row ice off of Frankfort arriving and at dock. To so many of us Midwest fans, the car ferries(GT,PM,AA and of course the Chief Wawatam) were so much a part of our experiences.

I have attached one of mine, some box cars there somewhere so that makes it OK?? Of course with my luck?????? Smile.(The image is too dark, rule of thirds or ....)

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I was amazed at the objections to the Viking photo. I admit there are more rail related photos of the boats being loaded etc but it is a nice photo of a classic.
Occasionally I re-post classic public domain photos. This one of the Lehigh Valley Railroad steamer 'Bethlehem' at Buffalo circa 1908 has 5000+ views on Flickr:
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Sure, it needs to be sharper. As for interest, we've been treated to "the door", "the note", and maybe "the tie-date nail".
And now, "the turtle."

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http://www.railpictures.net/photo/587410/

Nice but not even railroad rails, boat ramp. Just saying, if we talk about RR content.

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Nice but not even railroad rails, boat ramp. Just saying, if we talk about RR content.

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I was somewhat perplexed on this rejection of an abandoned structure that at one time provided hundreds of carloads daily:

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I guess it has to float the screener's boat!
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I was somewhat perplexed on this rejection of an abandoned structure that at one time provided hundreds of carloads daily:

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I guess it has to float the screener's boat!
I don't see images of industrial structures without rails evident being RP material. Surprised you were perplexed!

Yes, the line is fuzzy - how about a train ferry without visible railcars? - but to me, this goes beyond the fuzz of the line.
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I don't see images of industrial structures without rails evident being RP material. Surprised you were perplexed!

Yes, the line is fuzzy - how about a train ferry without visible railcars? - but to me, this goes beyond the fuzz of the line.
Probably not the fuzzy you are referring to but to be honest I see a lot of splotches in the sky and where the sky meets the tree line is really funky plus the background trees don't add much and also look weird. I like the idea of the trees in the fore ground adding to the forlorn look of the plant. Just wondering about a strong crop, lop off the left out buildings and off the top put the main plant at the top, if the image would hold up.

I like the idea of the old plant and don't consider it out of bounds. Not sure what happened to the processing but I once tried to shortcut the cleanup and blur the sky??????

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I don't see images of industrial structures without rails evident being RP material. Surprised you were perplexed!
Perplexed was a bad choice of words, as I fully expected what I got, but had to try. Agreed the sky has issues that need work. The main line of the Reading (by then RBM&N) is there in front of the breaker, which is part of the main reason for the line's very existence. I am not arguing that it should definitely be in, but it is much more rail-related than Bob's example. By extension, a photo of the Titanic rolling out of the dry dock as it was being launched is valid RP material.

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WRT Locust Summit, a friend and I went back and cleared out some of the scrub trees at a later date. When I dig them out, I'll submit shots with trains rolling by. No loss on this rejection, just using it to illustrate a point.
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I guess part of my point is that the rejection is a little of a catch-all, so maybe not completely clear the reason for the rejection.

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Nice but not even railroad rails, boat ramp. Just saying, if we talk about RR content.

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Sweet! Boat launches are now a part of RP and I've got a few in my area that I can photograph.
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