Old 01-13-2011, 02:41 AM   #1
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I've started processing 3 weeks worth of train photography that I did over my Christmas break, so far I'm running 2/4.

I got my first snow picture in

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And I got a nice beach shot of the Surf-liner in

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Now I have a couple rejects I'm working with

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1213108624

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=894512&key=0

I submitted the second one as a correction to the first one. I know the train is in the middle of the picture, but I thought I'd use the rocks on both side and have it come through them.

Also, a weird thing I had happen is it was either coming out as to sharp or not sharp enough. When I'd produce the 1024x image, it seemed to get really ugly. I've had this happen with some pictures from time to time, I"m not sure why.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1191627499

this was sort of a hit or miss shot, I am not mad it didn't get in, I had a ton of trouble trying to level it.
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:52 AM   #2
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The first 2 really is not doin' too much for me. BTW, I like the first reject lighting wise, the 2nd reject is a bit bright on this end. I really don't know what to tell you on the cropping, maybe a vert? I dunno, I'm lost with it.

The third one, too much on top for sure.


With your image quality issues, what's the size of the original photos on question. If your going from anything significantly below 1024 up TO 1024, the results will be very unsatisfying. And sometimes you might screw the focusing up a hair or two, I know I do, so your sharpness consistencies may not be the same for every shot


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You don't like the beach shot

I might retry the image and just use the smaller rock formation.

My original photos are about 5000x3000 Canon RAW images.
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No no no no....I'm talking about the first 2 REJECTIONS. your accepted shots are good.

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Wow....and your losing image quality when resizing?

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Yeah, I thought it was an issue with the codec used to open the RAW files, it's just weird how it randomly happens.
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On the UP Gevo shot with the rocks, do you have a frame where the train is around the curve a little more?
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Yeah, I thought it was an issue with the codec used to open the RAW files, it's just weird how it randomly happens.
Really odd, Greg. I know now with my 50d, if I don't use nice (expensive) lenses on it, images just do not come out well at all. Take note of what lenses you use on the ones that don't come out well. It may be your glass. I say this because when you said randomly, I noticed the same thing until I upgraded lenses.

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I'm using the one that came with my 7D. It's supposed to be fancy.
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I do have some with the train closer to me.
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Really odd, Greg. I know now with my 50d, if I don't use nice (expensive) lenses on it, images just do not come out well at all. Take note of what lenses you use on the ones that don't come out well. It may be your glass. I say this because when you said randomly, I noticed the same thing until I upgraded lenses.

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I think that is silly. Better cameras/sensors don't make lenses worse.

Sounds to me like someone is looking at 100% samples and isn't adjusting for the higher pixel density meaning greater magnification.
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I dunno, J. I'll post some examples if I can. The 55-250 IS looked amazing on my XTi, but paired with my 50D, it's just simply horrid how the images look.

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I am not addressing your image quality, you have something weird going on there.

I know your from MD, but I bet you will come back someday.


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Victorville is at least 20 miles from where these images were taken.

These are on the former Southern Pacific Palmdale Cutoff, now the UP Mojave Subdivision and I don't know the MP.

You could say they are near C.P. Canyon which is just on the other side of 138, or at the Mormon Rocks.

This is near Cajon Junction (Hwy. 138 and I-15).

And perhaps the two above could use less rocks.

The best way to shoot them is up close with a wide angle lens.

You can get this shot in if perhaps you cut off the left side and just have one group of rocks in there.

Otherwise next time your out you can hike up the hill and get them all in there.

Pine Lodge Approach



Or back off to the other side of Hwy. 138.


An "Un-Patched" Bridge Shot


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this was sort of a hit or miss shot, I am not mad it didn't get in, I had a ton of trouble trying to level it.
More like this maybe - less background.

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Also a slight rotation to the right.

Level off that antenna in the middle.

You can also rotate to the right and catch it on the bridge.

Crossing Cajon Creek

You also have some issues with your location and Railroad info.

Not Victorville.

This is near Cajon Junction (Hwy. 138 and I-15)

That is Cajon Creek and both of those tracks are mains #1 and #2 of the BNSF Cajon Subdivision Near Pine Lodge - MP 60.22.

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I know that's not really Victorville, I guess I just put that because it was the closest location.
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I know that's not really Victorville, I guess I just put that because it was the closest location.
Hesperia is the City at the top and about 15 road miles from the Mormon Rocks.

Devore is an unincorporated County area between Keenbrook and Verdemont.

The pass is in San Bernardino County and is actually a National Forest.

Map quest will give you Cajon Junction as being the City if you try to locate these areas.

You can also just enter Cajon Pass as the city.
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It kind of looks like the train is so small in the image, it ends up getting pixelated and showing sharpness.
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Has anyone used Fast Picture Viewer? Canon doesn't produce a RAW codec for x64 systems.
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