Old 02-27-2008, 01:36 AM   #1
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Question Sunlight glare

I'm sort of curious because it now has happened to me... has anyone on here ever had trouble taking a photo because the lead locomotive glares in the sunlight? When I took this shot:

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The train was going over a slightly bumpy area of track and the glare at times was so bad that it sometimes caused my LCD to show bright lines all the way from the bottom to the top. It was hard enough just to see with the naked eye, much less on the camera's LCD, and my camera doesn't have a viewfinder I could use instead (not that I prefer one anyway). It was the first photo I took while practically blinded for a few seconds!

Has anyone else ever experienced something like this?

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Old 02-27-2008, 02:45 AM   #2
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Interestingly enough, on the same train, but the blinding glare from the lead unit came about 100' (where the third unit is in this shot) before I pressed the shutter:
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When I saw the glare, I thought the 'mash was going to be ruined, but I still held out hope for a 70mm shot:
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But my biggest glare issue was on this shot:
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But I think it actually enhanced the shot more than it hurt it.
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:53 AM   #3
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I had a bit of glare off of the whole area around the engineers window a couple weeks ago, kind of was glad I decided to take multiple shots, as I ended up with a couple that had the whole area around the window blown out. Here is the one I decided to submit:

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Old 02-27-2008, 02:58 AM   #4
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This is the only one of mine I could come up with.

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taken about 40 feet above the rail head.

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The solution is simple apply some of that magic anti-glare dirt!

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Old 02-27-2008, 03:24 AM   #6
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Here are some of mine, I guess I am a regular at this. Never got the full sun reflection back into my eye occurrence, I'm happy to say. The first shot shows off the wipers.

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Old 02-27-2008, 03:34 AM   #7
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This is kind of on topic, with a subtle hijack to it, but I have never been able to take a shot where you could see the crew! Why?

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Old 02-27-2008, 03:43 AM   #8
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Speaking of glare, etc, check out the color of the tint on the windshields of these Amtrak F40s (now serving as baggage cars on the Chicago-Milwaukee train that I photograph)...

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I think it is some coating for the high speeds they run with these things on the point...I am not really sure...

As far as actual glare...here is my best instance:

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And a bit of glare on the MAC...

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This is kind of on topic, with a subtle hijack to it, but I have never been able to take a shot where you could see the crew! Why?

Loyd L.

Just the angle and lighting.. it is a bit harder in the wide cabs as well. I ended up having to do a head on shot of a standard cab Dash 9, ended up with a good picture of the engineer as well:

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The easiest way to get the crew is an overhead straight shot, and even then it's sometimes hard to get more than a silhouette.

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Then of course you could always go for them out of the cab as well!
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:04 PM   #11
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I've heard it referred to as getting "glare F'ed". You're in position, the train is approaching, perfect composition, perfect sun - no clouds, the moment of truth, finger over the release and, GLARE, aw F! I've a few of these that have been really severe... I don't like them so I don't submit them.

This would be my worst glare in the DB:

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As for a visible crew, this is the best I can find of mine:

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I guess the trick is low sunlight in the just after dawn or just before sunset if shooting the crew is your goal.

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Old 02-27-2008, 05:49 PM   #12
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Quote:
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This is kind of on topic, with a subtle hijack to it, but I have never been able to take a shot where you could see the crew! Why?

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Early morning sun that is bright sometimes late day sun, head on, and lower in the sky will get you the crew shot.

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Old 02-27-2008, 11:03 PM   #13
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I guess the trick is low sunlight in the just after dawn or just before sunset if shooting the crew is your goal.
If it hasn't already been mentioned in this thread, a CP filter would reduce to eliminate much of the unappealing glare. However, you generally lose 2 stops of light with a CP filter, and you'd have to rotate it as the train is coming toward you. Maybe a bit tricky, but it's doable.
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:11 AM   #14
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This recent shot of my dad's turned out showing one of the crew reasonably well...

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I took a shot at the same time from a higher angle, and the crew wasn't near as visible.

Out of my recent shots, this one was the best I could find for showing the crew well (this was a full telemash)...

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