Old 07-11-2008, 05:56 PM   #1
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RP material: yay or nay?

Got rejected for bad angle (can't argue by it's definition) and bad lighting, but I can't decide whether or not it's worth appealing/resubmitting (brightening it up first) on the basis that it's a well-composed (IMO of course) shot. I actually like the lighting alot, but, then that's just me, I guess.
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:02 PM   #2
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I like the scene, but the lighting is a killer for me...
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:11 PM   #3
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In general, yay.

I'm not sure this particular shot will get in because of light. But I'd consider cropping the left and top to put the crewman a bit more to the left, a bit off center. You could get rid as much as the "TERMI" on the side of the engine.

That might even help with the bad angle rejection - if you are not filling half of the frame (horizontally) with the engine, then it being shot at a bad angle is not as much of an issue. I doubt it, but it might.

It does look like you did a major application of noise reduction - the pavement looks weirdly smooth, the rails look odd. Can you back off on that, or maybe am I just wrong?
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:18 PM   #4
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It almost looks like you were taking a picture of the city scene when this train got in the frame accidentally. I don't think it works. The box car is too far down the street to make sense in the shot, the railroad man is too covered by the engine to stand out, there are light poles sticking out of nowehere, partially but not completely covered by the loco. I see what you were trying to do and I know you wanted to think outside the box, but this shot doesn't not work for me. Oh, yeah, way too much sky, too.

You've got some great stuff on this here site. This particular shot just doesn't showcase your skills IMHO.


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Old 07-11-2008, 06:28 PM   #5
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Because the photo doesn't have perfect lighting by RP standards, doesn't mean it isn't a good shot. Besides the fact it's an interesting to look at, it's also a hard to find active street running in most areas these days.

It's well composed, IMHO. What else could you do with it... 3/4 wedge? You did the best you could with what you were given, and you did well. I think is could use some straightening, but I like the angle. Part of the reject is "... and images in which the train is going away from the viewer", this makes the shot to me, gives it a "real" look of down and dirty railroading in the city. You've shown a train in the city, shown a train dwarfed by the city. Nice job.
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I'm thinking either more or less of the engine, but I really like the conductor looking at the city.
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Lighting is going to play a big part in this shot and unfortunately it's not playing ball very well in the foreground area. Depending on the available space behind you I would try to stand further back and use a longer lens kind of like a telemash shot, it would help bring the box car into play.

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It almost looks like you were taking a picture of the city scene when this train got in the frame accidentally. I don't think it works.



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I dont agree with Joe on this. With the crop from Switched Out, I like the shot. Wont work for RP, but I still like it.........
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Something is off in the photo. The clouds do not look real. Maybe play with the contrast. What ever it take to make the clouds look better I think will make the whole photo pop more.
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Here is my quick attempt.
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Old 07-12-2008, 04:33 PM   #11
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Sorry, but that only made the bad lighting worse.......... I like the overall look....... Looks to be a cold early morning shot........
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