02-20-2008, 05:44 PM
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#101
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I shoot what I like
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cedar Fall's, Iowa
Posts: 2,474
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I post photo's so some may enjoy them, or use it to find shots for a trip. if he left my name on my shot. it wouldn't bother me as much.
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02-20-2008, 06:24 PM
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#102
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American Gunzel
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Eagan, MN
Posts: 1,626
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Originally Posted by hoydie17
About the only thing that can be done is for the admins to disable the right-click feature on RP.net.
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Disabling right-clicking on this site is stupid - so stupid that I know neither Chris will ever implement it. All it would do is make it more difficult to use the site. Want to open that thumbnail in a new tab? Don't try right-clicking, it won't work. If someone wants the image, they can do a print screen, screen capture, look at the source and download it, or, as you said, recover it from the cache. Disabling right click would slow things down for the 0.001% of people that want to steal images and make the site a pain in the ass to use for a much larger percentage of the users. Any site that has right-clicking disabled does nothing but demonstrate the lack of technical knowledge of its webmaster.
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02-20-2008, 06:25 PM
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#103
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Met Fan
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,043
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Originally Posted by milwman
I post photo's so some may enjoy them, or use it to find shots for a trip. if he left my name on my shot. it wouldn't bother me as much.
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I agree with this totally. I post knowing that I am giving my picture to those who want them. I'm not kidding myself that they won't get used. But cutting my name off of my shot? That's just not cool.
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02-20-2008, 07:05 PM
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#104
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pittsburgh,PA
Posts: 675
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Originally Posted by ssw9662
At first I didn't like the idea of a watermark, but now you can expect to find one on all of my photos that I upload here!
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The watermark just ruins the photo. If you look through the images there are images he took that still have the watermark on them so, in this case, it did not stop him. If you are going to display images for everyone to enjoy don't ruin them by putting that ugly watermark on them.
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02-20-2008, 07:30 PM
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#105
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 839
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Still though, it makes it much easier to determine that the photo was stolen. It certainly isn't a perfect solution, but it makes it much easier to identify photos that have been stolen. The bottom line is that the black bar is almost completely powerless against stealing photos, and if cropped out (as demonstrated here) can reveal photos with absolutely no protection against stealing.
And, contrary to what many seem to think, it is possible to use a watermark without ruining the photo. My only major gripe with the system (Other than photos using watermarks that are way too visible) is that it just says "Railpictures.net" on it and gives no indication of who took the photo. I think it'd be better if it said something along the lines of "Photo © [photographer name]: Railpictures.net", although that may be a bit tough to fit onto one line.
Having said that, there is no one thing that will prevent people wanting to steal a photo to do so. Implementing several features to prevent image theft may help, but it won't make it impossible.
Last edited by ssw9662; 02-20-2008 at 07:33 PM.
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02-20-2008, 08:44 PM
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#106
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Firestone Park, OH
Posts: 379
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There is always going to be computer geniuses out there. By using certain features to protect our photos will limit some of these problems. Don't give up just because you believe we are outnumbered. Stop whoever is bothering you now! In this case, it is the user on Flickr.
For Socalrailfan, I post my photos as a representation of what I chose to do with my spare time and life. I post on this website to share my material for public viewing, and so others can enjoy my material and come up with possible photogenic locations if they were to ever be en route to my neck of the woods! What I did NOT post them for is to have them stolen from my account, without permission, and posted onto another photo hosting site, no credit given to me. See my point of view! I agree with Ween on his police/speeding driver comparison.
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02-20-2008, 08:55 PM
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#107
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 15
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Gee, I was feeling good that none of my photos were stolen, yet bad because this jerk apparently didn't think my images were worth stealing.
But, after a bit of digging, I found five of mine (plus one of my brother's) that were "nicked" by this pathetic loser. Not only did he not delete the EXIF data, so that my copyright is clearly visible when viewed, but the captions also became part of his post.
One would think that any photographer with the depth of images that he wants people to believe he has would also supply caption information of at least a minimal nature -- if he had really created these images.
Since 3/5th of my stolen images were from Britain, it lends creedence to the thought that he is based in Europe. Either that, or he just likes trains no matter where they are found.
Craig Walker
http://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php?userid=6478
(I refer to this thief as "he" even though there is a slight possibility that it could be a "she" ... but I doubt it.)
Last edited by Craig Walker; 02-20-2008 at 09:15 PM.
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02-20-2008, 09:16 PM
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#108
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pittsburgh,PA
Posts: 675
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Originally Posted by ssw9662
And, contrary to what many seem to think, it is possible to use a watermark without ruining the photo. My only major gripe with the system (Other than photos using watermarks that are way too visible) is that it just says "Railpictures.net" on it and gives no indication of who took the photo. I think it'd be better if it said something along the lines of "Photo © [photographer name]: Railpictures.net", although that may be a bit tough to fit onto one line.
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You are correct. It is possible to use a watermark without ruining the photo. I have seen a few photos uploaded already since the system was put up a few weeks ago that have them located where they do not take much away from the image. Unfortunately, any watermark which does not take away from the image is not doing much against preventing someone from removing it. Any watermark which does not take away from the image is most likely very easily removed. All the watermarks which are located up in the sky might as well not even be there, I can remove those in less than 30 seconds. RP.net added the watermark as a basic feature to attract members, if you really want to have all your information up there it can be done in Photoshop very easily. I would suggest doing that over the watermark on RP.net offers to anyone who would prefer some type of identification on their photos.
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02-20-2008, 09:26 PM
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#109
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New Haven, KY
Posts: 723
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Dont see any of mine on there. Really no reason for him to take any of mine since none of mine is worth stealing!
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02-20-2008, 09:45 PM
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#110
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nth. Strathfield, Main Northern, CityRail - Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 255
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I haven't found my three, which were accepted here, in those guy's galleries. In a way, I kind of feel insulted. 
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02-20-2008, 09:56 PM
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#111
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 17
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Originally Posted by Joe the Photog
How would a watermark stop him from posting these shots? All the watermark says is Railpictures.com. I have a feeling this bastard woldn't give a crap.
Joe
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Well yes and no. It's true that it doesn't stop someone from displaying it on another website, but note that in this case he took the time to crop out the simple copyright banner on every image. I think if he didn't give a crap he would have left them on and not taken the time to do that on hundreds of images.
The other thing it helps prevent is the dumb intern or guy who is going to lie to his boss and say, "Yes we have permission," becuse the boss is going to turn around and say, "Then get the copy that doesn't have RAILPICTURES.NET across the image." That helps force the business who wants to use your image to actually contact and compensate you.
Also, has anyone seen images in this guys gallery with the watermark on it?
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02-20-2008, 10:07 PM
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#113
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 80
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Originally Posted by Joe the Photog
How would a watermark stop him from posting these shots? All the watermark says is Railpictures.com.
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I was going to say that he might not care even if there was a watermark on the photos, and neither would the people looking at the photos, but I didn't.
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02-20-2008, 10:25 PM
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#114
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Here.
Posts: 837
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Originally Posted by Jon Wisnieski
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That's how the original image was. I believe it's the edge of the window of the passenger car the photographer was riding in.
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02-20-2008, 10:26 PM
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#115
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 1,023
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Originally Posted by Jon Wisnieski
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Thats part of the doorway of the car the photographer was shooting from i believe.
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02-20-2008, 10:52 PM
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#116
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Woods Cross, UT
Posts: 203
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02-20-2008, 10:56 PM
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#117
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 17
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It will be interesting to see how long it takes for any action to be taken by Flikr.
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02-20-2008, 10:57 PM
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#118
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: St. Charles, Missouri
Posts: 287
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He probably stole that photo too and claims it's his baby. 
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02-20-2008, 10:58 PM
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A dude with a camera
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 7,928
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Originally Posted by Jon Wisnieski
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Here's the original --
 | PhotoID: 199045
Photograph © Darrell Krueger |
A former Photo of the Week here.
Joe
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02-21-2008, 12:07 AM
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#120
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Hastings, Minnesota
Posts: 594
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Originally Posted by hoydie17
Heh, to see the photos turn out like they did, and all those cameras, this guy must be a "pro". And a LOADED pro at that. |
He must also have an infinite amount of free time, unlimited money, and be able to teleport to thousands of different locations around the globe at the precise moment that a train is going by with perfect lighting conditions.
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02-21-2008, 12:13 AM
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#121
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ashland, PA
Posts: 12
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I can't believe that baby would steal our photos!!!! 
M.T.
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02-21-2008, 01:42 AM
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#122
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bedfordshire, UK
Posts: 646
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Originally Posted by Frederick
He must also have an infinite amount of free time, unlimited money, and be able to teleport to thousands of different locations around the globe at the precise moment that a train is going by with perfect lighting conditions.
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I can't believe the amount of time that they must have spent saving all those photos and cropping the copyright bar off the bottom. Would have been a better use of time by going out and taking their own photos 
On the subject of there being no older photos featured, I am sure that this one featured somewhere
 | PhotoID: 192424
Photograph © Donald Haskel |
Also note that there are virtually no steam locos featured either.
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02-21-2008, 02:06 AM
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#123
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ashland, PA
Posts: 12
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I just recieved this email from yahoo regarding the complaint I filed last night:
Hello,
Thank you for reporting this incident to Yahoo!. We have taken the
appropriate action.
Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.
Regards,
Copyright Agent, Yahoo! Inc.
copyright@yahoo-inc.com
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c/o Yahoo! Inc.
701 First Ave.
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
Original Message Follows:
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The user, "Trains 02" on the Flickr website has used one of my photos
without my knowledge or permission. It was copied off of my page at
railpictures.net.
My original photo:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=182513&nseq=0
"Trains 02" copied photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3497438...16303/sizes/o/
"Trains 02" has clearly edited my original photo to remove the
copyright Railpictures.net placed on my photo when I uploaded it to their site.
I formally request my photo be removed immediately from "Trains 02" photo
page.
If you click on the link, you can see the photo was removed from Flickr.
Looks like justice was served, for now......
M.T.
Last edited by mst145; 02-21-2008 at 02:24 AM.
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02-21-2008, 05:05 AM
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#124
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 214
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I filed my claim with Flickr as well.
Also found three more Trains_xx accounts 10-12. Each has one photo, the same, could this be our culprit?
Take a look if you like.
http://www.flickr.com/search/people/...ins_10&m=names
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02-21-2008, 05:22 AM
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#125
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Lawrence, KS
Posts: 34
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Joe, that's actually the corner of the passenger car door... I probably should have cropped that out to begin with, but oh well.
I too have sent an earful to the Yahoo copyright department. Hopefully they'll actually do something with it.
I don't mind photos being posted, but give credit where credit is due!
geeeez
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Originally Posted by Joe the Photog
Here's the original --
| PhotoID: 199045
Photograph © Darrell Krueger |
A former Photo of the Week here.
Joe |
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