Old 06-27-2009, 09:38 PM   #1
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Let's re-stage this shot, hold up traffic for a few hours, or better yet have the accident at dawn or something.

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I seem to recall another accident shot a couple days back of a car in the side of a train ............ high sun. Then there was the shot of a F9 or something with a car under the front plow .............. high sun. I could go on and on but I suspect you get my drift already.

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Old 06-27-2009, 09:46 PM   #2
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Not to mention the Indiana Railroad streetrunning shot with awful hazy high sun that made pic of the day..........
I dont agree at all with this rejection seeing as youve covered the trucks and plow and your colors are well saturated.
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Your shot is technically OK ! Everything is clearly visible !
It only seemed not to "hit" the screener's eye.
Its difficult to see where the photo did not match the expectations of RP.net
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:28 PM   #4
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I personally would not accept this photo into the database. I see RP as more of a railroad photography site than a railroad news site. I think photographers here should focus on submitting their best train photos, not low quality photos of accidents and such. Now I understand your frustration because I've been seeing numerous high sun shots accepted lately, but I don't think that means we should all submit high sun photos and expect them to be added to the site.
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I personally would not accept this photo into the database. I see RP as more of a railroad photography site than a railroad news site. I think photographers here should focus on submitting their best train photos, not low quality photos of accidents and such. Now I understand your frustration because I've been seeing numerous high sun shots accepted lately, but I don't think that means we should all submit high sun photos and expect them to be added to the site.

Check around the home page for 2 reasons:

1. There is a whole section dedicated to Derailments.

2. Derailments/Accidents get some of the highest hits on RP.

They are very popular here!

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Check around the home page for 2 reasons:

1. There is a whole section dedicated to Derailments.

2. Derailments/Accidents get some of the highest hits on RP.

They are very popular here!

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I stated that photographers shouldn't focus on submiting low quality photos of accidents and such. I'm fine with derailment photos being accepted as long as they are good quality derailment photos. Your shot has poor lighting and a couple of other issues such as the bottom half of the locomotive being covered by the bridge. You're expecting your shot to get on the site just because it was of an accident and that's not always how it goes here.
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I stated that photographers shouldn't focus on submiting low quality photos of accidents and such. I'm fine with derailment photos being accepted as long as they are good quality derailment photos. Your shot has poor lighting and a couple of other issues such as the bottom half of the locomotive being covered by the bridge. You're expecting your shot to get on the site just because it was of an accident and that's not always how it goes here.
But its not LOW QUALITY.
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But its not LOW QUALITY.
I think I pointed out two major issues with the photo, did I not? Not to mention the fact that it was initially rejected. If you want to blatantly make a statement you'll need some sort of evidence to prove your point. And I'm sure I will get some sort of reply about how interesting the photo is. It is indeed interesting and would probably get a large number of views - but that doesn't mean it's a great photo.

Yes, I'm a complete nitpicker.

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I stated that photographers shouldn't focus on submiting low quality photos of accidents and such. I'm fine with derailment photos being accepted as long as they are good quality derailment photos. Your shot has poor lighting and a couple of other issues such as the bottom half of the locomotive being covered by the bridge. You're expecting your shot to get on the site just because it was of an accident and that's not always how it goes here.
I am dumb, what is considered "Low Quality"?

As for the bottom half of the loco being covered by the bridge, what about all the shots from a distance, or any of the shots on bridges that you can not see the trucks? You say they should not have been accepted then?

Examples of some shots I have as favorite:
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I liked the shot. I think it'd be a shot that the viewers would notice and definitely proceed to click on. Most likely even a Tof24, if you ask me.

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Let's re-stage this shot, hold up traffic for a few hours, or better yet have the accident at dawn or something.



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I agree with you that you should re-stage and re-shoot the shot.
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I agree with you that you should re-stage and re-shoot the shot.

Where do I send the bill? I ain't cheap, so be warned Oh, then there's the cost of the trailer, and bridge inspection/repair, towing, police/traffic control, ...... what else did I miss?
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what else did I miss?
A couple of girls in bikinis walking down the sidewalk would certainly help.
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A couple of girls in bikinis walking down the sidewalk would certainly help.
Where the hell you gonna find 2 girls with bikinis in Alliance?
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A recrop and color adjustment helps.
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A recrop and color adjustment helps.

............. but it's still "high sun" which is the reason for the rejection. There's plenty of high sun shots here.

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............. but it's still "high sun" which is the reason for the rejection. There's plenty of high sun shots here.

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There are indeed a lot of other high sun shots here, many of which may not deserve to get on, but I'd follow Travis's advice with the shot. Merely having high sun is not enough to get an otherwise appealing shot canned. Improving the shot like Travis mentioned may make it acceptable as a whole. It's certainly interesting.
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A recrop and color adjustment helps.
You forgot to level it.
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Why not simply appeal it?

Shots on bridges like this are at times rejected because you can't see the trucks on the train....but this might be an exception.

Make a reasonable argument and maybe it gets accepted.
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A recrop and color adjustment helps.
Instead of simply appealing, I'd suggest to recrop like proposed !
Rework your picture may be considered positively.
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Appeal it. It's a very interesting shot; one that will probably climb to the top of the day in term of views.
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Another vote for appeal. It seems to fit within the quality range of wreck shots on RP.
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Long shadows vertically, dave.
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My shot was accepted after an appeal: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=288828&nseq=0

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Here's the truck .................. if you are interested.

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