Old 08-23-2009, 04:51 PM   #1
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It was rejected for bad composition. Normally when rejected I can see the reason why. I thought this was a perfectly good picture.

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Old 08-23-2009, 05:16 PM   #2
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It's a nice shot, but I think the problem is having to scroll up and down the screen a good amount to see the shot. In other words, I think that you were a little too close to that building in the shot. I think that if you were further away so that the shot isn't so "tall", then you would've had it.

That's just my opinion - I've actually had a similar reject in Washington DC trying to get a nice looking building into a shot.
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Old 08-23-2009, 06:37 PM   #3
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I agree with Stephen about the scrolling - I submit verticals no taller than 900 pixels - but I think this one may be as simple as a rule-of-thirds issue. Crop off the left side, which isn't helping you any - and you move the train off-center and the skyscraper further so. You can crop and still remain within a 3:2 format.
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OK, put it back on the editor best I can do is 3:4 ratio otherwise you lose the top of the building or the bottom of the train. Can't get to 2:3.

You are right you cannot lose the sides or it makes the scrolling problem worse. The option is take the same shot again but from further away but again, this is also not possible as this is taken from the only place from where this particular shot is possible. The line goes round a slight curve as it enters the station platform (which I was stood at the end of) and the tree on the left then obscures more of the building and the view down the track if you are any further back also this is the end on the line.

Hmmm food for though.
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You have it backwards, I am advocating making the shot narrower, not shorter. So a) crop the sides to make the shot narrower, retaining everything top and bottom. So take the original 747x1000 and remove material especially or completely from the left side, you can end up removing all the way to 667x1000 and still be within a 2:3 ratio that typically defines the limits of what RP likes to see in terms of format.

And then take the resulting image and resize it so that it is 900 tall (and thus 600 wide if you do a full crop in the first step).

I used the numbers above to make clear what I mean, not as literal steps. In practice you should start over and crop, and then resize down to 900. You don't want to take this version of the shot and crop and resize, because the 2nd resizing and 2nd resaving may hurt your image quality. Start with the original, crop more narrowly than you did previously, and resize the result to 900 tall.
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OK done that and resubmitted.

Let's see what happens.

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Many thanks for your assistance.

That seemed to work.....

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=294829&nseq=9
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Well that worked a treat, nice image.
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:59 PM   #9
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Congratulations, very nice shot.
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