Old 03-16-2011, 08:35 PM   #1
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Not the best picture. I think the first one looks better.
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I personally have had a problem with those trying to tell us to turn railroad photography into an "art form." It's fine for them to do so, I welcome it in fact, but what I do have a problem with is that the practitioners of the more "arty" shots, I have found, tend to look down their nose's at others who are shooting more "mundane" shots.
Railroad photography is what you make of it, but one way is not "better" than another, IMHO. Unless you have a pole right thought the nose of the engine! -SG
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:40 PM   #2
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Anything is an improvement over the current scheme.
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:44 PM   #3
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Anything is an improvement over the current scheme.
Not that....

But with just a tweak, it could've been really wild!


(Nice catch, Gabe!)

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Old 03-16-2011, 08:49 PM   #4
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They could (should) have done MUCH better on the nose. The red should be on the whole nose except from the windows UP, and the break between red and gray should have been at much less of an angle.

Granted ANYTHING looks better than phase 5, but this is kind of disappointing.

Hell, my photoshop job looks almost better

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Old 03-16-2011, 08:56 PM   #5
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The red should be on the whole nose except from the windows UP, and the break between red and gray should have been at much less of an angle.
Nice job Troy - looks appealing but Amtrak seems to be trying with some success in aiming towards an adaptation of the original livery on new lines.
Not that your PS image was "in the run" but as for where the black ends and red starts, note these examples:

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As for my edit - I guess I'm partial to E's!

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Old 03-16-2011, 08:59 PM   #6
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Here's, IMHO, how Amtrak's #145 should've been done:



Photo reference (since these guys haven't traveled under cantenary....), Kevin Andrusia via Trainorders modified to my personal vision.

Note the accurate, and in my opinion, more appealing version with the gray stripe between the black nose and red, white and blue stripe.

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Old 03-16-2011, 10:27 PM   #7
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They could (should) have done MUCH better on the nose. The red should be on the whole nose except from the windows UP, and the break between red and gray should have been at much less of an angle.

Granted ANYTHING looks better than phase 5, but this is kind of disappointing.

Hell, my photoshop job looks almost better

now i'm a personal fan of phase Vb but that's probably because i never saw the likes of phase I, II, III, and IV. But i do think amtrak could have done better with their heritage units.
they could've used one of their NPCUs (which look more like FP45's or whatever then p42's) or even bought a look alike from MRL if they still have some...
i'll see what i can photoshop...

LOVE that one though!!!

(from pictures i do like phase III on the p42's and F40's but they)
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:55 PM   #8
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how's this?
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This was the only Amtrak paint job I ever liked:

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how's this?
I would have the red up to just under the windows, I like what you did on the side though...

Something like this


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I just confirmed AMTK 156 was pulled off of train 30 and sent back to BG. I guess someone wasn't happy with the way it looked and wanted to try again.
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Troy that is hideous lol
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I just confirmed AMTK 156 was pulled off of train 30 and sent back to BG. I guess someone wasn't happy with the way it looked and wanted to try again.
They took one look at the photo of it on RP and thought the trucks needed to be lighter.
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Hopefully they used my recommendations, there was not enough red on the nose...
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That doesn't count. It's really a Penn Central paint job.

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I just confirmed AMTK 156 was pulled off of train 30 and sent back to BG. I guess someone wasn't happy with the way it looked and wanted to try again.
really? somebody from amtrak didn't like it?
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really? somebody from amtrak didn't like it?
Mechanical issues... Bradley was providing humor.
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Mechanical issues... Bradley was providing humor.
That's our Amtrak, put a fresh coat on it and dont fix whats broke
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