Old 02-02-2012, 01:46 AM   #1
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Im not sure what they want on this one.
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Old 02-02-2012, 02:24 AM   #2
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Doesn't help that the blown-out light looks like some sort of chemical spilled onto a slide.

In general these things are a matter of taste. I do think that this shot has a strong flavor of the cars hiding something really interesting, whereas the typical silhouette shot is clearly focused on the cars as the subject of interest.
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Old 02-02-2012, 02:39 AM   #4
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Max, I have to agree with J on this one. Tone down the steam some if you can so it doesn't look so "nuclear".
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I will try, but you guys have to remember that that is bright sun shooting directly into white steam.
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Looks like thats the data is all gone from that white area. How does the original file look?

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Old 02-02-2012, 03:12 PM   #7
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Not a strong enough silhouette.
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I wouldn't hold out much hope at all on getting this one accepted. For my tastes, you're too close to the train. The sky looks blown out and the clouds/fog looks like white hot flames. The wires aren't helping either. You asked what they want from this one; my reply would be, "They don't."
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You should have underexposed more on this one. I agree the white blown out area really detracts from it.
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I wouldn't hold out much hope at all on getting this one accepted. For my tastes, you're too close to the train. The sky looks blown out and the clouds/fog looks like white hot flames. The wires aren't helping either. You asked what they want from this one; my reply would be, "They don't."
Not sure what you are looking at because the sky is clearly blue and not blown out at all. I personally dont mind the steam (certainly not clouds or fog) being blown out because its insanely hard to expose that right just because of the circumstances. Finally I suppose its a matter of where you are but the "wires" (codeline) are there for a reason and everyone up here understands why. But its ok i like it and thats all that matters. Thanks for the criticism.
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I think it would be a better shot if the cars had been perpendicular to you. That would give the car a clear outline. As is the silhouette is all melded with the other two cars loosing their distinction.

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I personally dont mind the steam (certainly not clouds or fog) being blown out because its insanely hard to expose that right just because of the circumstances. Finally I suppose its a matter of where you are but the "wires" (codeline) are there for a reason and everyone up here understands why. But its ok i like it and thats all that matters. Thanks for the criticism.
The steam isn't just blown out - it doesn't any defining grays or less dense areas the way steam coming out of a steam locomotive does - but it also has weird artifacts. The separation between the pure white and the not so pure white appears to have a purple line of sorts, some sort of variant on purple fringing, I suppose. It seems to have an odd pastel layering, rather than continuous change of color it seems to go in steps from white to beige to orange. So that part does not look natural or realistic at all. I have no idea if a processing fix is possible.

The wires don't bother me and in fact the steam kicking around the cross member is sort of cool, except it looks unnatural, I think in part because of the random dark spots, which I intellectually understand why they might be there but my reaction to their presence is to think they are weird.

Attached is a tight crop. I don't think there is anywhere near anything here that RP will take, but this crop focuses in on the interesting bits of light creeping through various gaps and avoids most of the horrible looking steam that the camera just could not handle well. Just a thought.
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Probably not considered kosher, but I used some Photoshop tools (added some color, and smudged the edges) to get this:



I think it's a very cool shot, by the way. For sure, I wouldn't give up on it, because it should be accepted.
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I think it would be a better shot if the cars had been perpendicular to you. That would give the car a clear outline. As is the silhouette is all melded with the other two cars loosing their distinction.

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That was my thought as well, just no where to get that sun angle.
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