Old 09-20-2008, 08:52 AM   #1
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Alright, I've been looking for a new camera the past few weeks, hopefully get one for Christmas.. I'm ready to bump up to a DSLR type of camera, I've been working with a few these past few weeks, getting a feel for them and would like to get one before too long..

Anyhow, I'm currently looking at the Canon XTi Rebel, I've been told it's a good camera, quite a few photos on here as well as other sites have been taken by the Xti Rebel.. Are there any other Canon DSLR type of cameras you guys could suggest that could fit my railfanning needs?

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Old 09-20-2008, 01:21 PM   #2
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If you want one cheaper than the XTi, look for the Rebel XT. Its about $100 cheaper or so, though I believe they finally stopped making them, so it may be hard to find brand new ones. I could be wrong on this though.
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:03 PM   #3
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I'm with Joey on this, get an XT. That's what I did when I first switched to DSLRs. I could have gotten the XTi, but I didn't feel I needed all the features over the XT for something I barely knew how to use at the time. Also, I think there are enough XT's floating around you should find one, but hey, the choice is still yours.
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Get a used copy of the XT and use the money you saved and invest in good glass, which makes a bigger difference than you might initially think.

Recommended Glass:
- Canon 70-200 F/4 L
- Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4.5 DC IF
- Canon 17-40 F/4 L

Those lenses may look very expensive, but they're all pretty good values as far as nice lenses go. If budget is an issue (it certainly is for me), KEH.com has good deals on used equipment.

I have an XT, and 200mm on one end seems to be as much reach as I can ever see myself needing, and 17 on the low end is just about right (sometimes I wish it could go a bit wider).

If the budget is less of an issue, the 40D or 50D would be an awesome choice.

If common sense isn't an issue, you could always look at the offerings from Nikon, Pentax, or Sony.
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Old 09-20-2008, 04:39 PM   #5
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I have an XT that needs to be taken off my hands. It would come with the 18-55mm kit lens, a Canon camera bag, a 512mb CF card or two, and whatever elese it came with.

Or, if you're heading to Grand Forks for a visit, there's access to a dSLR during the stay!
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Old 09-20-2008, 04:54 PM   #6
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Recommended Glass:
- Canon 70-200 F/4 L
- Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4.5 DC IF
- Canon 17-40 F/4 L
I agree with those, except for the 17-40. Get a 17-55 F/2.8 IS instead
If you're not really technically demanding of your lenses, I'd also look at the 17-85 and/or 28-135.
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Walter I've been looking into a 17-85IS as I have to return my Sigma soon...how much are you asking for it? I'm definiatly interested.
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Appreciate all the replies!

I've heard the XT is a nice camera, and that the XTi didn't offer enough to be worthy of an upgrade, but I was just going with the XTi since I figured the XT model was disconnected..

I'm willing to spend somewhere around 800-900 total including the body as well as the lens.. I haven't looked into any Nikon models yet..

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Old 09-20-2008, 11:48 PM   #10
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KEH has got a used XT body for $380 and used 70-200 F/4 L for $499 right now. If you're willing to buy directly from somebody used, you could probably get an XT with kit lens for $350-400.

You'd want to upgrade the kit lens later, but, you have to start somewhere...
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Old 09-21-2008, 03:06 AM   #11
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If you can spend in the $800-900 range, you might want to consider the Digital Rebel XSi, which apparently is worth the upgrade over the XT (unlike the XTi). Having said that, I've got an XT and have been very happy with it.

Who has a used 70-200 available?

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I'm willing to spend somewhere around 800-900 total including the body as well as the lens.. I haven't looked into any Nikon models yet..

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Nothing at all wrong with Nikon, I almost went with an XTi but ended up getting a D80 just feels like a better built camera. Don't like the high ISO noise performance but other than that its a good camera. The body is around 500 something on B&H, and an 18-200 lens is $679. A little more than your looking to spend probably. But if you want something equivalent to a Rebel a D60 would be a good choice too. Just make sure you get good glass what is true for Canon is true for any camera on that.
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If you can spend in the $800-900 range, you might want to consider the Digital Rebel XSi, which apparently is worth the upgrade over the XT (unlike the XTi). Having said that, I've got an XT and have been very happy with it.

Who has a used 70-200 available?
KEH has the 70-200 available, and, in my opinion, that is terrible advice (getting the XSi) - spend the money where it really is going to make a difference - the glass.
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- spend the money where it really is going to make a difference - the glass.
Exactly. I'd take a XT or better yet, a 20D with good glass over a XSi with that turd kit lens any day. I don't care how many megapixels you have, if the lens is worthless, so is the resolution.
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Go look at my shots and, without the exif, try to figure out what shots I took with the 40D and which I took with my XT. I've got 3 pictures on with my XT + moderately crappy lens, and a ton with XT + Amazing lenses.
Bottom line: Get an XT, or perhaps a 20D if you can spring a little bit more, and spend as much as possible on lenses.
I'm poor because of lenses =(
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I appreciate all the suggestions guys! I've been on so many camera store wesbsites the past few days looking through the models you guys have suggested..

I'll still look around, and I'm sure I'll have plenty more questions to ask along the way! I'll be sure to keep you guys posted.

Also, I'm looking for a camera that can produce some decent night images. I'm sure all are capable of doing so, just thought I'd add that note.

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Old 09-24-2008, 12:29 AM   #17
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I'm looking for a camera that can produce some decent night images. I'm sure all are capable of doing so, just thought I'd add that note.
I really love night photography, and haven't done nearly as much as I'd like with my Rebel XT (I did a lot more with my old point and shoot).

At ISO 100, the XT can crank out some pretty nice results, even with long exposures. These shots were taken with the Sigma 17-70...

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Outstanding photos! I'm pretty new with night photography (I started around 2-3 months ago) and so far, I've been able to put 7 night photos up on Railpictures, all taken with the Kodak Z812, and I'm sure upgrading to a DSLR would be even better.

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WRT to a used body (sorry to jump in someelse's thread), how does the # of actuations play into it? How many actuations do you think is too many? I've seen some bodies on evilbay wher they list the actuations and I am kinda leery about it.
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WRT to a used body (sorry to jump in someelse's thread), how does the # of actuations play into it? How many actuations do you think is too many? I've seen some bodies on evilbay wher they list the actuations and I am kinda leery about it.
I haven't bought a new body in some time. My 20D had 12k actuations. Or was it 4k and I quickly got up to 12k? My dRebel had some modest number.

In some cases one can get info on the rating of the shutter; I think the 20D shutter is rated for 150,000 actuations.

I'm personally not an eBay fan. I've had good results buying from craigslist (helps to live in a big city) and from the fredmiranda website. And also retail used, from KEH.com
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I'm a Canon fan, there's a number of sites that offer used equipment
www.adorama.com being one of them. I like the first Rebel (300D) and still use it from time to time, I'm not a fan of the future versions preferring the 20 and 40D's that I now use. I agree glass is important but normally rent L series lenses for special assignments. But once the stack of bills disappear that is one of my purchases. In the mean time I have bounced between Canon and Sigma IS lenses. Good luck in your selection..
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If common sense isn't an issue, you could always look at the offerings from Nikon, Pentax, or Sony.
As the proud owner of a wonderful Nikon D80, I will choose to ignore your comment.
When I was getting ready to buy a DSLR about 6 months ago, I decided on a Nikon so I could you all of my grandpa's lenses.
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