Old 01-15-2008, 02:28 AM   #1
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I really don't understand as there are similar photos of others on this site...

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Old 01-15-2008, 03:25 AM   #2
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I'm not sure how to respond. My first inclination is to be a smart aleck and suggest that perhaps the shots you think are similiar aren't similiar at all. I would probably say what I've said to others, too, that comparing your rejected shot to an accepted shot in the database never really gets your shot accepted.

But letting that go, here's why I think your shot may have been rejected. There's too much sky and the train is too far toward the bottom of the frame. 75% of the frame is nothing of interest. Now I do like the light going through the trees, but the signal bridge is too far away to really be of much interest in the shot.

It's not a bad shot in the dark, but definitely needs more below the tracks included. (I'm at home on a bad monitor so I can't really talk about brightness/contrast/color issues.


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That's actually a pretty good shot. I think the problem is that it's not obviously a train, which is too bad, because I think it's pretty nice looking.

Nocturnal landscape shots are pretty hard to pull off, and they don't usually make it here unless the trains snaking around or something. If it's possible, try it again a bit closer to the signal bridge, so you can clearly see that it's a train going by.
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:28 AM   #4
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Well, at some point it is a matter of preferences. Here, the trees obscure the line of light from the train, so the subject of the shot is trees more than it is railroading, despite the signal bridge, in my view. It is an interesting shot that apparently doesn't fit the tastes of the RP screener. I'm not a fan as far as RP goes. As far as general photography goes, it's interesting but not fully satisfying, can't figure out exactly why.

It might be interesting to try zooming in - say, divide the shot in two vertically and horizontally and take the bottom right quadrant. That looks like interesting light on the signal bridge.

What is that UFO in the sky?
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good idea on this one. I would try to get up closer, maybe focus on the signal bridge up ahead and try to include the waves breaking against the beach? I like it except for the sightly orange sky from the city lights.
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That thing in the sky really stuck out to me. Maybe the first UFO on RP.
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Thats for the info guys, I had tried another angle but it did not work out so well.

btw its a pedestrian crossing

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Well, no wonder! There isn't anything in it that indicates it's actually a train!

If I had a dollar for every failed nighttime shot I've tried, I wouldn't be saving for an L lens anymore. Better luck with the next set.
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Yea there is! I did say it was a BNSF train :P

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The second one is really interesting. I'm not sure that you are getting much closer to an RP acceptance, but you are certainly getting better angles. I would suggest you get out on the beach more (it looks like low tide?) and get rid of the dull mound on the left here, keeping the rocks to serve as your foreground interest on what becomes your left side. Then, the curve of the edge of the beach serves to guide the eye to the bridge.

But that is my one view of how to do this as a photograph. It just hit me, however, that you said pedestrian bridge. A row of trees and a pedestrian bridge is not a RR photograph and I don't see how this really cool setting will ever work for RP; there's so little railroad content evident.
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I don't know if this will work at all, but I've heard of people doing it. Perhaps if you take one picture of the train as the locomotive heads through, then before the end arrives you can take another exposure over the original image of the FRED as the end of the train goes through the same setting. You may have to rewind your film quickly or if you have a DSLR you can set it up to take one image over top of the other. RP may not like this at all, but it would be interesting to see how it turns out.

Here's an example around the lines of what I'm thinking you could do.
http://www.fotosearch.com/STK009/rgk1034/
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I don't know if this will work at all, but I've heard of people doing it. Perhaps if you take one picture of the train as the locomotive heads through, then before the end arrives you can take another exposure over the original image of the FRED as the end of the train goes through the same setting. You may have to rewind your film quickly or if you have a DSLR you can set it up to take one image over top of the other. RP may not like this at all, but it would be interesting to see how it turns out.

Here's an example around the lines of what I'm thinking you could do.
http://www.fotosearch.com/STK009/rgk1034/
I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but I think the admin here have established this to be a no-no. One could dig through the archives and find the forum if they were motivated.
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I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but I think the admin here have established this to be a no-no. One could dig through the archives and find the forum if they were motivated.
Here's a thread discussing double exposures:
http://forums.railpictures.net/showthread.php?t=6084
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