Old 03-12-2010, 04:03 AM   #1
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I wasn't surprised when I saw that this image was rejected:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=837477098

I did manage to work around the issue for this shot here:
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...but should I have investigated shooting it from a different angle entirely? Is there anyway RP may take the rejected shot?
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Old 03-12-2010, 04:13 AM   #2
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Well mate, you've got a wedgie there. The other shot's good, but really, why bother trying to get a horribly lit wedgie on?
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Old 03-12-2010, 04:13 AM   #3
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Personally, you got the better and more interesting shot in. The rejected shot is a typical wedgie with sub par (for RP) lighting and an open door. Not a bda shot by any stretch, but not very interesting either.

I like the Alco shot a lot though!
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The B&W is more successful from an artistic point of view. It is much more intersting to look at.

The ALCo shot is not artistic but is a good document. It has interest in that it is of rare machines. (I love ALCo's too.)

However, the B&W is much more eye catching for me.

Which is not to say it's perfect. The door spoils it and overall it misses something. Sorry can't think of what offhand.

Still, the B&W is the one I would look at.

But then I'm more a photo guy here than a hardware guy.
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The B&W is more successful from an artistic point of view. It is much more intersting to look at.

The ALCo shot is not artistic but is a good document. It has interest in that it is of rare machines. (I love ALCo's too.)

However, the B&W is much more eye catching for me.

Which is not to say it's perfect. The door spoils it and overall it misses something. Sorry can't think of what offhand.

Still, the B&W is the one I would look at.

But then I'm more a photo guy here than a hardware guy.
From a photo point what makes the B&W interesting, it is very flat, a whole bunch of medium gray. The ALCO shot is far more interesting in both ways, the contrast of the ALCO and SD70M make you want to click.
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:12 AM   #6
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The B&W shot has interesting photography with common equipment. I like it in B&W. (yes, it needs more work to make a better conversion) I also like the long train tailing to the horizon, the crew grips, the low angle, and the contrasting light. I simply find it more interesting to look at as a photograph.

The color shot has interesting locomotives yes, with but it is executed with common photography.

While I too like ALCo's, the color shot has flat, uninteresting lighting and a very ugly bridge. Therefore the juxtaposition of new/old equipment is not enough to make it photographically interesting for me.

Most people who come to this site are interested in just seeing the hardware. I'm more interested in the photography of the hardware.
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The B&W shot has interesting photography with common equipment. I like it in B&W. (yes, it needs more work to make a better conversion) I also like the long train tailing to the horizon, the crew grips, the low angle, and the contrasting light. I simply find it more interesting to look at as a photograph.

The color shot has interesting locomotives yes, with but it is executed with common photography.

While I too like ALCo's, the color shot has flat, uninteresting lighting and a very ugly bridge. Therefore the juxtaposition of new/old equipment is not enough to make it photographically interesting for me.

Most people who come to this site are interested in just seeing the hardware. I'm more interested in the photography of the hardware.
I'm not going to say that the colour shot doesn't have its flaws, but I really think it's a stretch to say what you're saying. The wedge has REALLY flat tones all across it, the light is not dynamic at all. There's no contrast across the entire photo. The way the light is makes you want to look away from the nose of the loco which takes up most of the photo, your eye goes straight to the logo and then out of the frame.
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The rejected images door is open.... I hear that this is frowned upon.
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