Old 08-26-2007, 05:57 AM   #1
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This past Thursday I went out in hopes of catching the NS H-07 go west out of croxton yard in NNJ and thru Rutherford station. While waiting in the disgusting 80* temps with high humidity I started to shoot some local and express trains on NJT's county line. Only a few came out decent enough for me to save, only 1 was in my mind good enough to try and submit to the site. I had hoped since the lighting seemed pretty good, came out pretty sharp (been having a bad streak lately) that it would be accepted. But it got rejected for bad composition. Now my question is do I have any options from this location really? Im standing at the eastern most part of the station on the wheelchair ramp. Im thinking its cause of the tree's directly in front of me that caused the rejection. What do you guys think?

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Old 08-26-2007, 06:04 AM   #2
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Well, for the composition/balance deal, I'm guessing it's because the train is smack dab in the center when viewed from top-to-bottom. Losing some sky or foreground plus some on the left would take care of that issue, but the shot suffers from some overblown sky. The building in the background is almost completely swallowed into the sky...
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:27 AM   #3
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I see what your saying about the train beeing in the middle. So much for the rule of thirds in this one. I'll have to check the original. I know i cropped this image i just dont remember how much.

As for the skies, there was no blue skies whatsoever. Thats our beautifull haze/smog we get on these disgusting hot/humid days. I guess this is what we get for living right next to manhattan and all the factories in NJ.
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:56 AM   #4
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I think Chris is right about the blown out sky being an issue.

You could crop to something as shown here and it might help, but I don't think much can be done about the white sky.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:44 AM   #5
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I'd turn the camera to the left a bit. All that empty space doesn't have anything of importance (the yellow barriers are a bit distracting) so I don't see a need for it. Regardless, the overcast sky and overexposure kill the shot IMO.
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Hi Stephen,

I'm with Mike on this one, too much dead space to the right hand side.

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The white sky is really issue but i would suggest anew position.In the next time you go there try to catch the train more early while its on the grade crossing and include half of the right trees and some of the left trees that appear behind the train.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:35 AM   #8
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I plan on going back. I may try the mid to late morning when the sun is more on the w/b tracks. As for the crossing, thats behind me and kinda hard to include in the shot from this location. I'll see what i can do.
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:31 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Stephen T.
While waiting in the disgusting 80* temps with high humidity.....
We've had fifteen 100 depree plus days in August this year in Columbia, SC including two days it topped out at 107. It's 80 degrees when I wake up in the morning at 3:15. I'd kill for some 80 degree days!

As far as the photograph, the guysabove me pretty much saidit well, but to drive the point home, the train is just a little too small in the frame for my tastes.

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