09-05-2008, 11:51 AM
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With this one, the first time it was rejected, it gave the issue with the horizon unlevel, but after I made the changes, it gave me this issue:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=260921540
For this one, the first time it was rejected, it was due to bad cropping, but I sent it again a second time, and not only did they say bad cropping, but it was underexposed:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=571329&key=0
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09-05-2008, 03:43 PM
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Can't comment on the first one, but the second one's cropped a little too tightly. It could also use a slight contrast boost, but I don't think it's too dark.
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09-05-2008, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trainboysd40
Can't comment on the first one, but the second one's cropped a little too tightly. It could also use a slight contrast boost, but I don't think it's too dark.
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It does look a little dark to me and I agree that it does need some breathing room. The biggest problem in my view is that the locomotive is on the wrong end!
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10-13-2008, 11:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jlev
I am so proud of all of my work, but I don't mean to say this, but I feel like I'm getting cheated on.
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Don't be so proud that you are oblivious to criticism. And no one is cheating you. (And for that matter, if you think you are being cheated, you must first identity something that you are entitled to that is being taken away. As no one is entitled to get pix on RP, I can't imagine what that would be.)
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Some of these shots, like the Amtrak one, I have submitted many times, and tried to follow the criticisms, but everytime I resubmit something back, it gets rejected.
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It is time to quit submitting them, then.  Here are some harsh words, given without malice.
1) Image quality is terrible. Not marginal. Terrible. Put it aside. Especially since you have made many attempts at it, one can conclude that either you need a lot of help on processing or that the original is inadequate.
2) Ditto. I presume it escaped Poor Image Quality only because the screener didn't select every possible rejection reason. Look at the side of the passenger car. Look at the side of the brick building.
3) Well, the foreground obstruction is minor at best, but the shot is composed/cropped to tight, especially on the right but I think on the left also, and there is a crane sticking out of one car. And high sun. Put it aside.
4) From this angle the foreground obstruction is completely distracting and so ruins the shot.
Keep trying, John, don't get frustrated, but you will have to do much better than this. The gap between these and your accepted shots is quite large. Go make some new shots and forget about these.
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10-20-2008, 11:16 PM
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Here are two rejects, but I'm a little disapointed about the second time I submitted it, because I felt like I'm being accussed of a violation of the database. It might be the same train, but the photo was taken when the train was about to round the curve. I even cropped the top one a bit.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=361732603
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=746989366
P.S. I had two recent shots published.
Last edited by jlev; 10-21-2008 at 12:42 AM.
Reason: Don't want to sound rude in my post
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10-21-2008, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jlev
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I think that 2 shots of the same train on the same curve is too much. It is done from time to time (Christopher Muller, recently!) but it isn't what the database is about. Quality, not quantity.
BTW, you forgot to input fresh content for one of your remarks sections; the train is not Amtrak and is not being led by two engines.
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10-26-2008, 04:13 PM
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Would RP accept shots during the middle of the day, in late fall, and winter? I know that during the summer, it's often tough to get stuff published between 11 and 3 b/c the sun is high up. Thank you.
John
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10-26-2008, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jlev
Would RP accept shots during the middle of the day, in late fall, and winter? I know that during the summer, it's often tough to get stuff published between 11 and 3 b/c the sun is high up. Thank you.
John
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RP doesn't publish anything...
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10-26-2008, 05:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jlev
Would RP accept shots during the middle of the day, in late fall, and winter? I know that during the summer, it's often tough to get stuff published between 11 and 3 b/c the sun is high up. Thank you.
John
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It really depends on the lighting, which is determined by the patricular circumstances of the particular shot (what is the angle you are shooting at, how far away is the subject, how far north or south are you on the globe, how late in the year, is it December or September, etc.). In other words, are there harsh shadows caused by the sun being directly over the subject, or are there not. If there are not, you can get an image accpeted, If there are, you won't.
EDIT - to expand, if you are in Canada, and it's December, there's no high sun, I don't think at all during the day... but if you are in Southern Mexico, you are still facing high sun at midday. Also, the closer you are to the train (a roster shot of a single engine for example) the more evident high sun becomes. The further away you get, making the scenery a bigger part of the image, the less it is apparent. And, if you elevate yourself, so you are looking down on the train, (from an overpass, or mountain), then you are looking at it at an angle that hides the shadows from your camera the same way that angle is hiding the sunlight from those areas.
Last edited by Freericks; 10-26-2008 at 05:24 PM.
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10-26-2008, 05:47 PM
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I would shoot be shooting in late November and December, and would be in the S. Jersey, and Philly region.
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10-26-2008, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jlev
I would shoot be shooting in late November and December, and would be in the S. Jersey, and Philly region.
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In the hour around noon, you may want to go have lunch, but you may be fine. Not 100% sure. You're pretty far north there. The 11 to 3 window (which corresponds to Daylight Savings Time anyway) is definetely not applicable.
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10-26-2008, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freericks
In the hour around noon, you may want to go have lunch, but you may be fine. Not 100% sure. You're pretty far north there. The 11 to 3 window (which corresponds to Daylight Savings Time anyway) is definetely not applicable.
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Or try to find a spot with some southbound trains, and get up on an overpass and shoot them a bit more head on:
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This was just after 1, the sun was favoring neither the east or west side, but it was excellent to the south.
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10-26-2008, 08:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freericks
In the hour around noon, you may want to go have lunch, but you may be fine. Not 100% sure. You're pretty far north there. The 11 to 3 window (which corresponds to Daylight Savings Time anyway) is definetely not applicable.
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We're not too much farther north here in Michigan, and "high sun" doesn't exist at this time of the year. In fact, at all hours of the day, shadows are longer than the the subject they are being cast from. So I'd say it's a safe bet for him from now until mid-march or so to be shooting at all hours of the day and not have to worry about high sun.
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11-03-2008, 01:32 AM
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Are there any ways for me to get this shot published, in terms of fixing the weaknesses that they listed? I know I'm getting better and better, but I don't want the ball to drop too much on my performance. Thanks.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1022082729
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11-03-2008, 01:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jlev
Are there any ways for me to get this shot published, in terms of fixing the weaknesses that they listed? I know I'm getting better and better, but I don't want the ball to drop too much on my performance. Thanks.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1022082729
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Published where?  The cropping and sharpening is the least of your worries. It is also very dark as the train is in complete shadow. It is also unlevel. I dont see it getting accepted.
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11-03-2008, 02:07 AM
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I should've been a little more specific, but RP. I think I will leave this one alone, for now. The nose of the loco, I don't think is in complete shadow though because I see plenty of light on it.
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11-03-2008, 02:20 AM
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Why would this shot fall under the obstruction category? I'm guessing it's the fact that the train was on the other side of the fence. This was taken from a high level platform. Thanks.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=266171474
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11-03-2008, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jlev
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Yes that rejection reason is correct. They are talking about the fence the runs along side the train.
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11-10-2008, 03:22 AM
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Id say appeal, thats a great shot, shadows or no shadows.
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11-10-2008, 03:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nikos1
Id say appeal, thats a great shot, shadows or no shadows.
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Why should he appeal? It's lightrail so it's obvious that the line sees more than one train a day and that it's possible to get a train in better light. The shadows ruin the shot and I'm sure that if appealed it will be rejected again.
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11-11-2008, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike B.
Why should he appeal? It's lightrail so it's obvious that the line sees more than one train a day and that it's possible to get a train in better light. The shadows ruin the shot and I'm sure that if appealed it will be rejected again.
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I agree with Mike.
That's a very, very interesting angle, you're fortunate it's on a light rail line, as you'll get many opportunities to reshoot there if you can. Since you've got quite a bit of elevation there, you don't have to worry as much about high sun - try again with better light, if you can.
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