Old 10-29-2008, 04:03 PM   #1
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My monitor is on my laptop and my eyesight is definitely dodgy these days (getting old...)

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Can someone help me find the grain on this one. I quite like the shot and wouldn't mind getting it accepted, so if you can help, I'd be ever so grateful.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:40 PM   #2
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My monitor is on my laptop and my eyesight is definitely dodgy these days (getting old...)

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1262854681

Can someone help me find the grain on this one. I quite like the shot and wouldn't mind getting it accepted, so if you can help, I'd be ever so grateful.
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I think the screener is being a bit harsh here (if thats the real reject reason and not just a mistake).

The only area that I think might be suspect is the darkish section of building top left of the shot, above the enclosed walkway, but there is little (if any) significant noise to warrant rejection on those grounds.

I've seen other shots accepted in the last few days that had far worse noise than this.

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Graham,

I can FAINTLY see some noise and grain popping up in the green and shadow areas. Very faintly, not enough to reject it. Try go back and process, but tick the sharpening down JUST A LITTLE BIT! Just enough to get rid of the noise. As on here it looks a shy over sharpened too.

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Sometimes you can't see the noise, you just have to feel it.
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I've had shots rejected for grain where the screener mistook falling snow for grain or heat rolling off the locomotive on a cold day. Maybe he saw something that we are not, like a texture on a building that give the illusion of grain... I sure can't see any grain worth rejecting it for.
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I tried an appeal, but it was rejected.

I'll go back to the original and have another go at processing it.

If that doesn't work, well it's another one to be viewed in the privacy of my own home.
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You must have picked it up from one of those many countries that camera has visited.
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Oh my goodness, you're right Jim!
I went to the Camera Doctor and he said that the camera is suffering from an acute dose of EFTD (Excessive Foreign Travel Disease).

He told me that the only cure is for the camera to have complete bed rest, keep warm and drink lots of Chicken soup. I have to play my part by not taking any railway photos for the forseeable future. (Actually, he said that bit just after looking at my work on RP.net!)

Come to think of it, my parents used to say I made too much noise when I was a child. It seems you just never get rid of it.

Oh well.............

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So, Graham, are you going to pop it into software, put a mild touch of noise reduction on it, and resubmit?

Sometimes I over analyze things, sometimes I just plug and chug. I bet if you simply do a bit of noise reduction and submit, it gets in.

Get on with it so that I can get my comment put in, will ya?
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So, Graham, are you going to pop it into software, put a mild touch of noise reduction on it, and resubmit?

Sometimes I over analyze things, sometimes I just plug and chug. I bet if you simply do a bit of noise reduction and submit, it gets in.

Get on with it so that I can get my comment put in, will ya?
I'd better get on with it then.
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Oh my goodness, you're right Jim!
I went to the Camera Doctor and he said that the camera is suffering from an acute dose of EFTD (Excessive Foreign Travel Disease).

He told me that the only cure is for the camera to have complete bed rest, keep warm and drink lots of Chicken soup. I have to play my part by not taking any railway photos for the forseeable future. (Actually, he said that bit just after looking at my work on RP.net!)

Come to think of it, my parents used to say I made too much noise when I was a child. It seems you just never get rid of it.

Oh well.............


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Very nice
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but actually I (only slightly) prefer the rejected one. Are you going to give it another go?
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I've already gone back and given it a little noise reduction. It's now in the submission queue.
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So, Graham, are you going to pop it into software, put a mild touch of noise reduction on it, and resubmit?

Sometimes I over analyze things, sometimes I just plug and chug. I bet if you simply do a bit of noise reduction and submit, it gets in.

Get on with it so that I can get my comment put in, will ya?
I did it and it's in.
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Thank you very much for your kind comment Janusz.
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