Old 11-24-2009, 09:28 PM   #1
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Default Backlit: Yes.. Cool: Yes..

Just wondering, opinions on this? I personally really like it.. Personal collection?

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Old 11-24-2009, 09:31 PM   #2
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I often have difficulty deciphering contrast in B&W images but this one looks off.

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Old 11-24-2009, 09:46 PM   #3
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I really like it. May not be one for the DB, but definetly one to proud of for your personal collection.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:49 PM   #4
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Hmm, the B&W looks odd. Did you try a color version? I'd also try some shadows/highlights, Steve-O.

Good shot, nonetheless.

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Old 11-24-2009, 10:01 PM   #5
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Contrast looks off plus try playing with the color channels to make the locomotives brighter.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:03 PM   #6
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Steve, when I opened your image, my room got darker. Not a fan - the sky is dark and there is very little definition nor clarity anywhere within the image.

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Old 11-24-2009, 10:11 PM   #7
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Good idea, poor composition. Keep it in the back of your head for another situation where there isn't trees blocking the locomotives and you can get a slightly more train-centric composition.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:06 PM   #8
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:25 PM   #9
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Contrast is horrid and it's backlit. How did you convert it to B&W? Try using the photoshop image/adjustments/black and white wizard method, gives you more control and the contrast issues will disapear.

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Old 11-24-2009, 11:38 PM   #10
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Contrast is horrid and it's backlit. How did you convert it to B&W? Try using the photoshop "convert to greyscale" method, gives you more control and the contrast issues will disapear.
It is backlit but is it interestingly backlit? Especially for a BW where backlit gets more latitude because of what it adds to tonal contrast.

Convert to grayscale is a poor way to convert, giving less control than channel mixing in particular.

Contrast is strong but then contrast is what BW is about, just look at the masters of the genre.

The shot, I'm not a fan. The shadow on the foreground I don't care for, an important part of the composition is unlit. But more importantly I find the composition weak - there is lots of framing and positioning on the left with the tree and the foreground ground foliage and then everything just drops off the right side. And there is no anchor in the background, no point of interest past the train. For me it just does not hold together.
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I didnt mean convert to greyscale, I meant the image/adjustments/black and white conversion method, you can control the conversion a lot better. WTF was I thinking, convert to greyscale is the worst

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Old 11-25-2009, 04:16 AM   #12
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Dunno why, but I like it. Maybe my eyes are just used to scalding contrast and colour.
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This p[hoto is running the gammut in opinions from it's great to it sucks. I like it myself as is, though I'm not sure the b&w conversion lends itself well to RP. It now depends on if you want to change the shot altogether and maybe get it in the database or keep it as is and post it elsewhere.
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I shot it in Standard shooting style, then converted to Monochrome in DPP.. I'll fiddle with it in a bit, gotta finish my pasta first.

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