Old 03-25-2012, 11:53 PM   #1
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I initally submitted this last night and the screener gave me unlevel horizon as per this photo:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...78&key=3548492

So I rotated the image about .75 to the right and it got the bad cropping + underexposed rejection. Perhaps it was a different screener who looked at it, because this led me to believe that one screener was ok with it but the only problem being the unlevel horizon, and the other screener just didn't like the cropping. The underexposed part I see, but there was nothing I could do about the signal gantry as for the cropping, the original has it cut off and or the room on the bottom is what it is after rotation. I am not sure at all.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...37&key=7522794

As usual, any help and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:04 AM   #2
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If that's the full frame, I'm afraid you're stuck. Cutting off the signals is, I think, the major issue here. You could crop down the top so you avoid the targets on the signals, and just show the support, but I suspect that might just make things too tight all around.

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I have the original right here.
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Just curious, why would you cut off a signal structure that the train was passing under? Not using a wide enough lens?
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Just curious, why would you cut off a signal structure that the train was passing under? Not using a wide enough lens?
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I honestly think you missed the ball on setting up the scene. You could probably fix it up and get it accepted for RP, but I would offer some advice to redo the shot another time and improve it.

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I honestly think you missed the ball on setting up the scene. You could probably fix it up and get it accepted for RP, but I would offer some advice to redo the shot another time and improve it.

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To be honest, I wasn't trying to set up any type of scene in the photo. I just take my photos the way I normally do. I was also using a telephoto lens for the shot so I could get a shot of the fully lit nose portion of the engine and to avoid the backlit rejection. The sun was dead centre in the sky at the time. I have also had cut off signal gantry shots accepted in the past before as well.
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Would this be an ok crop?
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If you ask me, I think the uncropped version - including the entirety of the bottom signal heads - is your best bet. Cutting them off isn't doing you any favours.

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No go.

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I'd say they really would prefer to see the full signal structure. Bummer that you weren't able to get wide enough to include it.
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Yeah, cutting off signals is a no-no.
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I was also using a telephoto lens for the shot so I could get a shot of the fully lit nose portion of the engine and to avoid the backlit rejection.
Sounds like you shoot for RP. Take some time off and think it over, my friend.

You could do the same tele shot in those lighting conditions by backing up a couple hundred feet (granted you can do so while staying on public property).

My advice is try again in better light with a wider lens. It's a bummer that you had a duo of 40F-2's on the point for this one, though.
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I tried a shot with the signals fully shown in the photo, but they gave me backlit anyway.

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