Old 01-15-2009, 05:10 PM   #1
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First happy new year and lots of fun around teh tracks. Last year was really bad in weather here in France. 2009 is better and I'm now able able to do more pics. I check rp.net everyday and when I saw overexposed pics or close-up of a dusted rail, I thought : "I may have a chance". So I made a selection and did my first suggestion of the year. Bingo ! 9 rejections on 10. Ok I have to admit I laugh a lot when I read the reasons of rejections.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=458885536 : oversharpened. Well I processed in Lab mode, taking care of not transforming the catenary to steps (aliasing) ... too bad, need to change my eyes.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=156615849 : bad cropping. Why not. My idea was to emphaze snowy field with the depth of field to guide the eyes to the subject. I should never ask advices to pro photographers and comme back to missionnary position ... ummm wedgies.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=503914994 ; bad contrast. A snowy landscape, oh i forgit, it has to be overexposed to be screener choice.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=130920365 : bad cropping. THE wedgie shot, respecting rule of third. Should work better with SD70M-2 instead of this green crap.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...1&key=81419392 : underexposed. Hahaha I am still laughing. Next time I'll bring my flashgun or maybe I should use more the "fill-in" tool in Photoshop ?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=780645706 : bad colors. The rising sun in winter in Paris is kind of magenta, these are the real colors !!! (and I don't mention the probabilities to get a rainbow over Paris).

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=379912733 : poor aesthetic qualities. Ok I knew this one would be hard to go but tried it anyway as it is an unusual sight of the new design on the TGV.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1278178465 : underexposed. That was the deal : showing the reality of the work with a dark cab, light on the schedules...

To be honnest with you guys, I feel like I'm not in the standard of rp.net anymore. I went to a railfan meeting here in France and we all agree that rp is very kind with US shots and some specific photographers and that "alien railways" were not welcomed. Too bad.

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Old 01-15-2009, 05:50 PM   #2
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Hi everyone,

First happy new year and lots of fun around teh tracks. Last year was really bad in weather here in France. 2009 is better and I'm now able able to do more pics. I check rp.net everyday and when I saw overexposed pics or close-up of a dusted rail, I thought : "I may have a chance". So I made a selection and did my first suggestion of the year. Bingo ! 9 rejections on 10. Ok I have to admit I laugh a lot when I read the reasons of rejections.
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=458885536 : oversharpened. Well I processed in Lab mode, taking care of not transforming the catenary to steps (aliasing) ... too bad, need to change my eyes.
I'm on a crappy monitor at work, and having difficulty in seeing the over-sharpened. MAYBE the ballast..

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=156615849 : bad cropping. Why not. My idea was to emphaze snowy field with the depth of field to guide the eyes to the subject. I should never ask advices to pro photographers and comme back to missionnary position ... ummm wedgies.
Looks like the screener should have given the balance rejection. It is centered vertically, and there is nothing of interest on the entire right side to balance the photo out. This may be salvagable if you have the MPs to work with.

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=503914994 ; bad contrast. A snowy landscape, oh i forgit, it has to be overexposed to be screener choice.
The few shadows that are on the train look grey, and not dark enough. Like I said above, I am on a junk work monitor though.

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=130920365 : bad cropping. THE wedgie shot, respecting rule of third. Should work better with SD70M-2 instead of this green crap.
Too much plain, cloudless (or other object) sky, although I do like the color of it.

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...1&key=81419392 : underexposed. Hahaha I am still laughing. Next time I'll bring my flashgun or maybe I should use more the "fill-in" tool in Photoshop ?
Junk monitor, so refraining from opinion, although I do like everything else about it.

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=780645706 : bad colors. The rising sun in winter in Paris is kind of magenta, these are the real colors !!! (and I don't mention the probabilities to get a rainbow over Paris).
That may be the case, but the objects in the photo seem to have the same tint to them also. Plus the nose of the train looks blurry.

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=379912733 : poor aesthetic qualities. Ok I knew this one would be hard to go but tried it anyway as it is an unusual sight of the new design on the TGV.
Nice photo, but by looking at it, the veiwers are unable to say that it is a railroad related photo without reading the remarks. They could be bus seats, theater seats, etc. for all we know. Like I said, it is a nice photo. It just doesn't say RR related to be on RP.

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1278178465 : underexposed. That was the deal : showing the reality of the work with a dark cab, light on the schedules...
Again, junk monitor, so refraining from opinion, although I do like everything else about it. Maybe isolate the interior and bring it up a bit to see a little more detail in the objects on the dashboard?




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To be honnest with you guys, I feel like I'm not in the standard of rp.net anymore. I went to a railfan meeting here in France and we all agree that rp is very kind with US shots and some specific photographers and that "alien railways" were not welcomed. Too bad.

Renaud
I would agree to an extent concerning the high sun rejections and the wider bodies of the non-US locos, but there are also a lot of stunning photos on RP from across the pond.

Just my $0.02
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:09 PM   #3
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I will start off with, I don't like foreign power either!

1. sharpening looks good to me, poor lighting for the composition.
2. bad cropping, the dead space is dead trees and brown grass. Just doesn't look good.
3. The snow should be whiter, looks a tad under exposed and looks over sharpened
4. does not follow rule of thirds as the train is centered horizontally. also the sky and field are drab and looks under exposed-maybe crop the sky and right side some.
5. nice shot, the dark areas up front need to be opened up without chaging the horizon. will be nice.
6. under exposed
7. nice shot just no clue that is rail related.
8. bring the exposure up inside the cab soom and you may have a winner.

Maybe your monitor is calibrated since all of your shots look under exposed? They may look correct to you.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:04 PM   #4
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Hi,

Thanks for the comments. I'm going to recalibrate the monitor. About the foreign pictures, I mistype. I was meaning I sometimes feel that pictures from overseas have to be of really high quality to be accepted.

Anyway, I was a bit disappointed. Guess my Ego didn't like so much rejections at one time lol. Next time I keep my grumpyness for me

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Old 01-15-2009, 07:08 PM   #5
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Renaud,

I really liked your photos. I guess RP.net doesn't, but oh well. Great work.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:53 PM   #6
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I receive those type of rejections quite often, and with a decent photo editing software, most of them can be fixed, and worth another try. Don't give up yet, you could tweak some of them, and perhaps get a couple more in the DB.

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Old 01-15-2009, 08:14 PM   #7
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1. - Looks fine to me, but I get alot of rejections for oversharpening too
2. - I'm not a fan of the field either
3. - bump the contrast up, I liked the improvement when you do that
4. - train is in the middle of the vertical plain, cut the field some. Also, the top corners appear to be suffering from a major case of vignetting
5. - I tinkered with an increase in gamma, and contrast and was much happier with the result. Nice shot none the less though
6. - blurry train, major vignetting in the top corners, and I just can't believe the color
7. - could be a train, could be a movie theater
8. - needs more cowbell, err brightness

For what it's worth, I can understand where these rejections are coming from. The only shots I did a double take on was number 1 (but I'm a bad eye for that), and number 5 (which does look better, brighter).

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was rejected for oversharpening (hehe), so I went from a 50/.5/0 usm to a 25/.5/0 usm, which made a trivial difference, but it was accepted next time through. And yes, I wasn't happy about it for a few minutes

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Loyd, it looks like they missed the unlevel rejection, though.
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Loyd, it looks like they missed the unlevel rejection, though.
yeah, I guess the headlight is off..

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=458885536 : oversharpened. Well I processed in Lab mode, taking care of not transforming the catenary to steps (aliasing) ... too bad, need to change my eyes.
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Although you've done a good job of preventing jaggies on the catenery (which always happens to me), the wires in the foreground are showing sharpening artifacts - look carefully and you can see a white band next to the wire
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On the first one the oversharpening is in the power lines at the top of the picture. Just look very closely at each line because it is very minor. The train itself looks perfect. You can either crop the top out or do a new image with the sharpening slightly reduced.

I am a little better than most because I would have gotten 10 out of 10 rejected for the perfect score!
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Old 01-16-2009, 01:51 PM   #13
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I went to a railfan meeting here in France and we all agree that rp is very kind with US shots and some specific photographers and that "alien railways" were not welcomed. Too bad.

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I don't think so, we get nailed for just the same thing's here. It is the easy thing to say that they don't like me, or us. If its right with there standards it will get on, rework and tweak them and they may get more in.
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Renaud,

I really liked your photos. I guess RP.net doesn't, but oh well. Great work.
I agree. Sometimes I wonder how some images make it in when shots like Renaud's don't...

I like the verticals, but verticals just don't work in this format. If they were posted on a wall or some less constricting place as a computer monitor, they'd be better off.
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