Old 01-21-2005, 11:52 AM   #1
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Default New Lococmotives for CSX (ES44DC), and NS (SD70M-2)

I'm not much on rumor mills, but a contributor to the Trains Magazine forum has indicated that CSX has ordered 100 ES44DC's. It did not indicate when they will be delivered or which road #'s assigned to them.

Also, Norfolk Southern has ordered 52 SD70M-2, assigned #'s will be 2649-2700. They will be delivered beginning in September of this year.

Additional info about Western roads were this:
200 C45ACCTE for UP
115 SD70ACe for UP
150 ES44DC for BNSF
50 ES44AC for BNSF

If anyone has any additional information on the CSX purchase please let me know, I have tried Google, and CSX.com, but with no luck.

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Old 01-21-2005, 04:05 PM   #2
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I'm surprised CSX is going with the ES44DC and not the AC version. I would have to guess they will be numbered after 5101-5122 block of 22 AC4400's. So the 5123-5222 range perhaps, if I did my numbers correctly.

Also, MRL ordered 16 SD70ACe's and BHP ordered 13.
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I am equally surprised they are ordering a DC version. Everything that I know of has been AC purchases for several years now. AC4400CW, AC6000CW, SD70MAC, and the SD70ACe, and now all the sudden DC. Maybe they are to replace aging equipment which is less reliable now due to their age like SD40-2's, and the oldest of the Dash-8's.
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I am hearing that this CSX order has been confirmed in the January 2005 issue of Progressive Railroading magazine, so I guess that settles it.
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Maybe they are to replace aging equipment which is less reliable now due to their age like SD40-2's, and the oldest of the Dash-8's.
That's a good possibility. It seems that the AC's are pretty much assigned to coal train service for the most part. I've noticed that if it's not a coal train, the power will be something wild like the aforementioned SD40-2's, SD50's, Dash-8's, or even lease power. Speaking of, they may be trying to cut back the number of locomotives they're leasing. In the case of NS, it's just nice to see them buying some good locomotives for a change.
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Progressive RRing reports that they are to be used in intermodal and merchandise service.

NS is also exploring a GE order in addition to the 52 SD70M's on the books for 2005.
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I am equally surprised they are ordering a DC version. Everything that I know of has been AC purchases for several years now. AC4400CW, AC6000CW, SD70MAC, and the SD70ACe, and now all the sudden DC. Maybe they are to replace aging equipment which is less reliable now due to their age like SD40-2's, and the oldest of the Dash-8's.

Locomotives are specified for their intended service. AC units cost more but provide higher adhesion and are not subject damage if operated at low speed under high load conditions. Some roads - such as CN or NS have found that they can operate fine with less-expensive DC units. A NS man told me that based on their grade profiles and siding lengths, 2 DC units can handle whatever tonnage train they operate.
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I'm surprised CSX is going with the ES44DC and not the AC version. I would have to guess they will be numbered after 5101-5122 block of 22 AC4400's. So the 5123-5222 range perhaps, if I did my numbers correctly.

Also, MRL ordered 16 SD70ACe's and BHP ordered 13.
We have to remember that the ACe's have, for the most part, crapped out on CSX...maybe a precautionary move?
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Good grief you are not kidding about the new ACe's and AC's. They are JUNK! I've never seen such shoddy craftsmanship on new equipment. The buttons fall off, appliances don't work, and one new ACe has already smoked a turbo.
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