Old 06-22-2012, 06:33 PM   #1
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I submitted a few variations of this photo have have gotten the bad cropping rejection each time. I'm not exactly sure where to go with this one. I have room on all sides to play with. Here's the most recent rejection:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...66&key=1442901

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

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Old 06-22-2012, 07:33 PM   #2
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Subject is too big and "in your face" IMO.
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:33 PM   #3
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Try something more like this, i know you lose the milepost but it is a bit too far out there and centers things too much. Also it needs about 2 degrees of CW Rotation.
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I say keep the milepost and just cut the sky some.
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:44 PM   #5
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Subject is too big and "in your face" IMO.

I agree with that the more that I look at it, just needs more room. Maybe you have a previous frame?
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Thanks for your help!

I went to the previous frame and recropped it to take out some of the sky and a little of the right side. I think this is my favorite version so far. What do you guys think?
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:11 PM   #7
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Thanks for your help!

I went to the previous frame and recropped it to take out some of the sky and a little of the right side. I think this is my favorite version so far. What do you guys think?
Now too centered, too much dead space on left.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:21 PM   #8
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Way too much space on the left, centers the subject. You are trying to save that Milepost and it doesn't merit saving.

The formula for getting a generic sunny day wedge shot on RP is very simple.
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I say keep the milepost and just cut the sky some.
I'm with J and here is my go, leveled, adjusted levels, contrast and sharpened 30/.5/0 usm.

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What about the distracting shadows on the side of the first locomotive? Isn't that going to be a problem?

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Thanks for your continued input. I'll play around with it tomorrow when I get back to a real computer.

Although I do like Mark's version...
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No milepost, just train. What do you guys think about this one?
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:10 PM   #13
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Hey guys,

I submitted a few variations of this photo have have gotten the bad cropping rejection each time. I'm not exactly sure where to go with this one. I have room on all sides to play with. Here's the most recent rejection:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...66&key=1442901

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

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I'll dissent from the others. I like the cropping and think the MP adds to the story. There is good balance between the front of the loco and the MP and between the end of the train and the RH edge. That looks good to my eye. If anything, I'd prefer less foreground. I think the biggest problem is nose of the locomotive looks washed out a bit and the shot isn't level. Some of the others' attempts at correcting this are an improvement. I's play around with that an give it another shot before I messed with the cropping.

YMMV....
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Crop off a little from the bottom and right and I think the last attempt might be a winner.
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What about the distracting shadows on the side of the first locomotive? Isn't that going to be a problem?

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Aside from the unlevel and cropping issues, this was my next thought. The light in general is too close to on the nose for a traditional 3/4 wedgie plus you've got the tree shadow on the side of the leader. Don't be surprised if those are your next rejection problems (although it might slide by).
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Way to prove me wrong on the shadow thing:

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Although I had qualified my comment.

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I ended up trying to take everyone's input, while trying to save the milepost (not sure why, but I wanted to leave it in there). And as Michael showed, it finally made it.

Thanks to everyone for helping me (finally!) get my first Railpicture!
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Congrats on your first shot in the DB. It is a steep learning curve.
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Congrats on your first shot in the DB. It is a steep learning curve.
Agree! Shot looks nice!
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