Old 08-01-2006, 06:49 PM   #1
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I noticed that John West has two photos of the same train on the same bridge on the main page right now. Although both are nice shots, I find myself wanting to see a shot with the train much closer. John: Do you have a shot framed like this:
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But with the front of the coal train over top the Camas Prarie rails below. If so, I'd like to see it.
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Old 08-02-2006, 03:20 AM   #2
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....you mean you want yet another shot of Joso? Yeah, I have the shot you are looking for. But notice the handrail along the side of the bridge closest to my position? I hate shots where bridge handrails cut off the running gear. Plus the light was disappearring quickly so it's dark. If I had had my jet pogo stick with me I would have jumped to the east and tried some kind of sunset siloutte kind of shot. But I'll scan it and see if I can fog it by the screeners.
But it may take a day or two.

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Old 08-02-2006, 09:58 AM   #3
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....you mean you want yet another shot of Joso? Yeah, I have the shot you are looking for. ... Snip .... But I'll scan it and see if I can fog it by the screeners.
But it may take a day or two.
John, if flames out at the screeners could you post it here? I'd like to see it as well.

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Old 08-02-2006, 04:57 PM   #4
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Smile I'll post it here

Christine, thanks for suggesting that I post it here. I'm a bit new to this forum and just figured out that there is indeed a jpeg attachment feature down below (I'm a slow learner). My guess is posting here is a better alternative to the big show, since I think three Joso's would be a bit much.
It's not a bad picture but the slide is a bit dark. But maybe with PS I can punch it up a bit.

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Old 08-02-2006, 10:48 PM   #5
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Default Three warbonnets crossing over the Camas Prairie

If the mechanics work the picture should be attached. In my view it is an interesting picture, but graphically lacking. The running gear of the units is obscured, the lighting is sufficiently dull that the units don't standout against the background, and last put not least it is not a particularly sharp picture for reasons that are not entirely clear to me. Any way, would appreciate your thoughts.

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I think the obstruction of the running gear is all right if not expected when the train is on a bridge. But you're right that the train doesn't stand out against the background due to a mostly cloudy sky. But this is still a cool shot.... and an over/under at that!


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I think the obstruction of the running gear is all right if not expected when the train is on a bridge. But you're right that the train doesn't stand out against the background due to a mostly cloudy sky.
Note that there is no railing on the other side of the bridge. The message for me is to find an early morning shot from the other side! I always like to have an excuse to go back and try it again.

To the west it was more like haze than clouds. The shadows are distinct. Usually these would be ideal conditions, but the haze stole any brilliance from the low sun. Had the train arrived fifteen minutes earlier it would have been gangbusters.

But that's the life of the railfan photog. If only......

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Had the train arrived fifteen minutes earlier it would have been gangbusters.

But that's the life of the railfan photog. If only......

John

Ha! I'd have arrived fifteen minutes AFTER your shot!
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In my view it is an interesting picture, but graphically lacking. The running gear of the units is obscured, the lighting is sufficiently dull that the units don't standout against the background, and last put not least it is not a particularly sharp picture for reasons that are not entirely clear to me. Any way, would appreciate your thoughts.
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John,

I think it's one of those locations that if you took the same shot at the same time over a few days you would come away with a different picture every day. It's a great location I'm pleased you posted it here.

Having a close look at the photo it appears that the train crossing the bridge is a little blurry compared to the rest of the picture suggesting you might of used a slowish shutter speed. (I'm still having problems dealing with the length of the trains you guy's run over there)

One other things that can effect the sharpness of the picture is in the post processing stage, when you re-size an image it will lose a bit of it's sharpness (The dreaded soft image rejection ) sometimes you might just have to run it through the sharpening thingy ever so slightly after you have re-sized the image.

In the attached image I used Photoshop's "Shadow/Highlight" adjustment to bring up the detail in the shadows. I also fiddled with the colour and I cheated a lot on the background mountains I copied them to a separate layer and tweaked their contrast and brightness separately from the rest of the image.

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John, I have to say that is an impressive photo and an impressive bridge!
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