Old 01-25-2009, 01:50 AM   #1
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Default It's really about the bridge and trestle

My primary focus with this photo is the bridge and the trestle that's being rebuilt. I chose to make the shot when a train was also present, but it is getting rejected for foreground clutter and subject too far away, which I think is directed towards the train and not my true subject matter.

My goal is to capture this bridge and trestle in their process of change.

Should I appeal or is RP.Net just not the right forum for this shot?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=702030172

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Old 01-25-2009, 01:58 AM   #2
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My primary focus with this photo is the bridge and the trestle that's being rebuilt. I chose to make the shot when a train was also present, but it is getting rejected for foreground clutter and subject too far away, which I think is directed towards the train and not my true subject matter.

My goal is to capture this bridge and trestle in their process of change.

Should I appeal or is RP.Net just not the right forum for this shot?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=702030172

Thanks for your time,
Charles
It doesn't work as a train picture. The problem for you, I think, is that it also doesn't work well as a bridge picture. The angle is oblique, the focus gets pulled away from the bridge, it isn't clear what is being rebuilt - I don't see which pilings are wood and which are not. If the pilings are the central part of the story, the part you want to document, well, they are well hidden, the eye does not go to them, it goes to the bridge span, the train, the trees.

My suggestion is try again, almost certainly from a different spot. YMMV
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In my opinion, you can't look at the image and think to yourself "This bridge is being rebuilt." To the ordinary person, it looks like an attempt to get a train going over (or entering rather) a bridge. Also, the fact that the tree branches block out the nose of the lead unit is pretty distracting. Keep for the personal collection. If you want to show the bridge construction, try to show more of a broadside view of the bridge, with a train on it. Nice attempt/subject anyways. I like it, as a photo.
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Old 01-25-2009, 02:16 AM   #4
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The "train too far away" rejection I have seen too liberally used. There have been a ton of pics here, some even photo of the day which are taken miles away from the train, some which you can barely even make out the train.

This one, I dont know, it could go either way. For me, it would be nice if you could see MORE of the train, but I dont like the too far away rejection.
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:10 PM   #5
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To me the first thing I see is the bridge and a lot of branches. Maybe if you were farther over to the left and the rain was on the bridge it might fly.

Anyone else notice the wheel on the bottom of the steel structure of the bridge on the lower left corner? Does it actually move when the train is going over the bridge?
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As everyone suggested, get a different angle. Back out and get a train coming off of the bridge (your RP subject would not be too far away then), and also show the entire bridge if that is to be YOUR subject. Another possiblility is to get down to the riverbank and get a side on shot with a train on it. Just be sure to watch your train placement. RP tends to want to see the nose outline unobscured between the girders. Also be sure to show the entire bridge down to the water and then a little more. Something like this:
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My goal is to capture this bridge and trestle in their process of change.

Should I appeal or is RP.Net just not the right forum for this shot?
I think you're going to need one of these first:




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Anyone else notice the wheel on the bottom of the steel structure of the bridge on the lower left corner? Does it actually move when the train is going over the bridge?
That's a swing bridge. In the old days, when there was a lot of river traffic, they'd use a small motor (or manually) to rotate the bridge open using the gear you see. There are serveral swing bridges like that in my area, but as far as I can tell, probably haven't been used in over half a century.

This is a swing bridge with the same type of gearing:

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There is a large sprocket on top of the far left bridge support just like the one in the rejected photo above.
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Default Thanks for the feedback everyone

Thank you all for your time reviewing that photo.

I agree... there's just too many trees on the far shore of the river.

So, I've moved on to working with a photo that shows the train emerging from the truss bridge. Took a bit of work, but it's accepted!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=268733

Cheers,
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Congrats on the acceptance. You were revising your post at the same time I was responding.

In response to the no-longer-present question, because you deleted it, of how often does one see screener comments attached to the rejection notice, in my 3+ years here, never once have I seen one.
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Thank you all for your time reviewing that photo.

I agree... there's just too many trees on the far shore of the river.

So, I've moved on to working with a photo that shows the train emerging from the truss bridge. Took a bit of work, but it's accepted!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=268733

Cheers,
Charles
Nice! That scene would look really great with snow, too.
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In response to the no-longer-present question, because you deleted it, of how often does one see screener comments attached to the rejection notice, in my 3+ years here, never once have I seen one.
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