Old 01-26-2009, 08:55 PM   #1
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I was wondering what everyone thought about this photo. Does anyone think it would be worth a try?

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Old 01-26-2009, 09:15 PM   #2
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I think UP should rarely (read: never) be in black and white so no.

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Old 01-26-2009, 09:24 PM   #3
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The deeper into this hobby I get, the more I appreciate B&W photography....despite the fact that I'm inconsistent as heck with mine. That said, I'm dying to hear with what folks say about this one.

My take is that this shot may get bagged for low contrast. Too many variations of light tones....not enough dark ones. A snow scene with a bright sky and a light-colored locomotive probably aren't a combination that lends itself to a good B&W. It's an OK shot for the conditions, but color might have been the way to go.

Another thing to consider, if you care about views, is that my observation is that B&Ws don't do all that well here. Yeah, once in a while, someone scores a real beauty, but that's the exception. I think they are appreciated by the photogs here, but not so much by the casual users of the site, who would prefer to see bright, sunny, colored shots. Again, just my observation.
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:29 PM   #4
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Another thing to consider, if you care about views, is that my observation is that B&Ws don't do all that well here. Yeah, once in a while, someone scores a real beauty, but that's the exception. I think they are appreciated by the photogs here, but not so much by the casual users of the site, who would prefer to see bright, sunny, colored shots. Again, just my observation.
I think that people put BWs here for two reasons, for artistic reasons (so they don't care about views) and to "save" a shot that has a bad sky (so any view is more than zero).

This particular shot does little for me, but then its color version would also do little for me. It's fine, nothing wrong with it. I wonder if we expect a BW to be a higher level of artistry just because so many do BW just for that reason. So a BW wedgie looks a bit odd, perhaps, just because of expectations. It's fine.

Had there been a lot more snowflakes in the air, that would have been interesting, oh well.
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:48 PM   #5
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Another thing to consider, if you care about views, is that my observation is that B&Ws don't do all that well here. Yeah, once in a while, someone scores a real beauty, but that's the exception. I think they are appreciated by the photogs here, but not so much by the casual users of the site, who would prefer to see bright, sunny, colored shots. Again, just my observation.
Kevin, I completely agree. Here is my latest; probably the best B&W steam I have ever done. Low view count on RP.
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The image under discussion needs more contrast to get on. Then when it does, I don't think the diesel lovers will bite a no color UP, bland sky wedgie.
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Looks like the sky and foreground snow are both blown out. Additionally, it looks like you're on the dark side of a parked train. The contrast also bothers me... way too much gray and not enough black.

So, no, I don't think it's RP material. If in that situation again, get onto the lighter side of the train and bracket your shot so you're more likely to have a better exposure.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:26 AM   #7
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Thank you everyone for the input! When I was shooting this shot I had B&W in mind for it. To me I was thinking it would make a nice B&W but I guess thats just my opinion. lol It had been snowing pretty good before I showed up to this location like in this shot.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wab1189...26035/sizes/o/

Just my luck though it was hardly snowing when I showed up.

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I was standing on the side where the sun would have been shinning at that time of the day. Although this is a North South line and I was shooting facing South. Cloudy days is the only time I will try that. lol Maybe it was my camera settings? They were ISO 200 shutter 1/1000 F/9.5

Again thank you everyone for the input. I'd like to say since finding this site a couple years ago I have learned ALOT. I guess I need to learn some more on what makes a good B&W.
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