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Old 02-05-2018, 04:45 AM   #626
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I don't see an issue with the backlit snow shot...
He handled it well, but I have to wonder why he chose to shoot straight into the sun glare.
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Old 02-05-2018, 01:28 PM   #627
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He handled it well, but I have to wonder why he chose to shoot straight into the sun glare.
Looking at that image, there may have been some other atmospheric phenomenon at work, such as haze or blowing snow in the air. Those conditions can produce some interesting visual effects.

When you shoot into the sun, lens flares are the most common result, even with expensive lenses. In this case, the image could potentially have benefited from the use of a CP filter. Lots of people run around with CP filters on their lens all the time, and most of the time, all it does is rob them of 2 stops of light. Its when the sun is in front of your 3-9 line that the CP can be rather useful. Other than being a PITA to dig out and screw on at the last minute, I personally kick myself for not using that $100 piece of glass more often. In recent years, I've been shooting backlit a lot and that filter could have improved some of the resulting images.
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Old 02-05-2018, 07:04 PM   #628
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The light effects I see are caused by ice crystals, likely kicked up by the wind. This is a small scale (and pretty darn cool) phenomena not so often seen. It is much more commonly seen high in the sky when a layer of cirrus clouds (which are ice crystals) are between the viewer and the sun, and a halo and/or small rainbow-like spots at the 90 degree points known as "sun dogs" are visible.
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Old 02-06-2018, 04:20 AM   #629
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Why? It's well-executed. It'd be easy to overcook a photo taken in similar conditions, but I find the processing to be quite tasteful.

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Processing? Doesn't look like any was done. Needs more contrast. If you're going to include a blown out sun flare, at least make it pop.
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:39 PM   #630
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Interesting.

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Old 02-12-2018, 02:09 AM   #631
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:28 AM   #632
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Very interesting.
Went on a real photo blitz out of nowhere. Some have the date, some the month and some just the year.

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Old 02-12-2018, 05:43 AM   #633
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Old 02-12-2018, 12:59 PM   #634
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Went on a real photo blitz out of nowhere. Some have the date, some the month and some just the year.

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All have the obtrusive tacky watermark.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:13 AM   #635
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Went on a real photo blitz out of nowhere. Some have the date, some the month and some just the year.

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A pet peeve of mine. For a photo taken digitally, is it that hard to look up and then put the actual date?
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A pet peeve of mine. For a photo taken digitally, is it that hard to look up and then put the actual date?
I agree. Makes it really hard to look for photos taken at the same event or of the same train.
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Just throwing this out for thoughts??

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Old 02-13-2018, 02:29 AM   #638
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Just throwing this out for thoughts??

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Looks like the Castle Bravo shot.....about 15 MT, if I recall correctly.
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Just throwing this out for thoughts??

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Nuclear blast?
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:01 PM   #640
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Just throwing this out for thoughts??

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Bad editing plus terrible screening coming together to provide another facebook campaigned TO24 that should have been destroyed with rejections.

Great job to all involved with that disaster...

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Looks like the Castle Bravo shot.....about 15 MT, if I recall correctly.
I'd wager it was a Kuzkina Mat (Tsar Bomba) level yield lol

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I'd wager it was a Kuzkina mat (Tsar Bomba) level yield lol

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Shooting directly into the sun is definitely a challenge. I'm personally more than a little fearful of it because I am afraid of hurting my eyes. Often, you're trying to balance not completely blowing the sun to hell, while still preserving something to recover the foreground details, as this photographer was trying to do. That doesn't make the image any easier to process. Plus, if there's even a thin layer of clouds around the sun, the camera certainly could make it look like a massive nuclear fireball.

Yes, I have had a few sunrise and sunset shots in which I wish the sun ended up looking more like the real sun than it did. The number that I ended up trying to post here was pretty small. In the end, the decision was based on whether or not I felt that the scene was dominated by the nuclear blast, like the one we are discussing. In most cases, the answer was no.

This one was kind of a "fail":
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This one was a tad better:
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One of my favorite into-the-sun shots was pulled off a few years ago by my friend Mitch Goldman. He also had that thin layer of cirrus to deal with, but he pulled it off nicely, IMHO:
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I see nothing wrong with a small sun-shaped blow out as you've linked because that's about as close to getting it right as you can get. But 75% of the sky being lost is inexcusable.

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I see nothing wrong with a small sun-shaped blow out as you've linked because that's about as close to getting it right as you can get. But 75% of the sky being lost is inexcusable.

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I agree. As I noted in my previous post, my first reaction to the current To24 was that it looked like a picture of an atmospheric nuclear test. Its popularity must have been a combination of pure curiosity ("How the hell did THAT get accepted?") and a Facebook Campaign. And we all know, a Facebook Campaign trumps quality every time. I look forward to the day when Facebook goes the way of MySpace.
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Shooting directly into the sun is definitely a challenge. I'm personally more than a little fearful of it because I am afraid of hurting my eyes. Often, you're trying to balance not completely blowing the sun to hell, while still preserving something to recover the foreground details, as this photographer was trying to do. That doesn't make the image any easier to process. Plus, if there's even a thin layer of clouds around the sun, the camera certainly could make it look like a massive nuclear fireball.

Yes, I have had a few sunrise and sunset shots in which I wish the sun ended up looking more like the real sun than it did. The number that I ended up trying to post here was pretty small. In the end, the decision was based on whether or not I felt that the scene was dominated by the nuclear blast, like the one we are discussing. In most cases, the answer was no.

This one was kind of a "fail":
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The satellite view of that stretch is like nothing I've seen before. Erosion will probably fix that give or take a million years.
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The satellite view of that stretch is like nothing I've seen before. Erosion will probably fix that give or take a million years.
It looks terrible on Google Earth, but amazingly, it photographs pretty well. The Sumpter Valley Fall Photo Train is one of the best deals going. They have nice variety of equipment and they have really nice people. Martin Hansen usually leads those trips and he has experience both as a railroader and a photographer. In the case of that particular shot, a layer of ground fog got between me and the sun and the result was a bit of a fireball.

The EPA would never allow land to be dredged and left in that fashion, the way it was back in the mid-20th century. The mining company would have to do some remediation.....which is probably the reason that even with newer mining techniques available, it is probably not worth it to them to go back there.
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I see nothing wrong with a small sun-shaped blow out as you've linked because that's about as close to getting it right as you can get. But 75% of the sky being lost is inexcusable.

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Bad editing plus terrible screening coming together to provide another facebook campaigned TO24 that should have been destroyed with rejections.

Great job to all involved with that disaster...

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Bad editing that is fixable in photoshop. A quick "hue" fix would have made it much more presentable. It's not going to fix the blown out parts, but the color would at least look a little more natural.
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Bad editing plus terrible screening coming together to provide another facebook campaigned TO24 that should have been destroyed with rejections.

Great job to all involved with that disaster...

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7,000 views? Maybe everyone just wanted to see how terrible this image is.
I think this goes beyond Facebook campaigning. I wouldn't be surprised if he used some form of bot to raise views.

Shame on the Screeners for taking this. It's a valuable skill to realize that you failed. I would be embarrassed to put this image in my personal collection, let alone post it to the internet with a watermark. Perhaps someone can blackmail me by threatening to put my watermark on it.
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7,000 views? Maybe everyone just wanted to see how terrible this image is.
I think this goes beyond Facebook campaigning. I wouldn't be surprised if he used some form of bot to raise views.
The image sat at the To24 position for the better part of the day, which will generally get you thousands of views. I'm lucky if once and a while, I can get one in the top 4 for an hour before its 24-hr clock expires. But mostly these days, I watch the heavily campaigned stuff whiz past mine.....or perhaps I should say whiz ON mine.
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