Old 04-12-2007, 06:18 AM   #1
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Like everyone else I need some advice on some rejections

First off:
http://railfan.homeunix.com/photo1.jpg
Was originally rejected for not being level with the horizon which I fixed, now being rejected for bad lighting.

Also:
http://railfan.homeunix.com/PDRM3067.JPG
Rejected for bad crop, I tried:
http://railfan.homeunix.com/photo2.jpg
Rejected for bad crop again.

Also any point even trying to submit this one:
http://railfan.homeunix.com/PDRM3112.JPG
I would crop it before submission but wanted comments on the original.

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Old 04-12-2007, 02:49 PM   #2
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Like everyone else I need some advice on some rejections

First off:
http://railfan.homeunix.com/photo1.jpg
Was originally rejected for not being level with the horizon which I fixed, now being rejected for bad lighting.

Also:
http://railfan.homeunix.com/PDRM3067.JPG
Rejected for bad crop, I tried:
http://railfan.homeunix.com/photo2.jpg
Rejected for bad crop again.

Also any point even trying to submit this one:
http://railfan.homeunix.com/PDRM3112.JPG
I would crop it before submission but wanted comments on the original.

Will
Will,

I actually really like the first shot, but that fence on the lower left doesn't do anything for me. It is still unlevel by looking at the open door on the first car so I would concentrate on that.

I don't understand why the rework of the second was rejected. The crop right to the top of the trees is fine.

I wouldn't bother with the third one.
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Old 04-12-2007, 04:01 PM   #3
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Like everyone else I need some advice on some rejections

First off:
http://railfan.homeunix.com/photo1.jpg
Was originally rejected for not being level with the horizon which I fixed, now being rejected for bad lighting.
It's a nice picture overall, but the nose looks just terrible, it is so blown out. If you can't take care of this through some serious processing, then I think it never gets in. The blue thing in the lower right corner does not help, and the fence isn't great but I don't feel as strongly about that as Andrew does. But the primary issue is not those, or the rotation, it's the blown out nose.

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Also:
http://railfan.homeunix.com/PDRM3067.JPG
Rejected for bad crop, I tried:
http://railfan.homeunix.com/photo2.jpg
Rejected for bad crop again.
In my opinion, the image just isn't that interesting. You did crop out some empty space, but there is more. Lots of uninteresting space upper left, right side. One suggestion, before you abandon, is to try a vertical, as I have attached. Notice how all the essential elements of the shot - train, detail on train roof, signal, white-capped mountains in background, trackside "thingie" on right edge, are still there, despite having cut out maybe 2/3s of the original.

Note that I personally would still not accept it, most of the image is in the dark, but tastes differ, as I have repeatedly found out over the years! See what you think, and maybe see what RP thinks.

Third shot, forget about it. The subject is quite dark and backlit, and the image has nothing else of merit - it's just a portion of an engine and some trees and snow. I'm not intending to be harsh for fun, I am trying to be constructive in giving reasons. It's a quick snapshot with bad light, and images at RP are held to a higher standard. Take a look around the database and get a sense of the level of quality here. (Your first shot is pretty good in that respect - too bad about the nose.) You are new to the forum and I hope you will quickly realize that this is a great place to learn how to greatly improve the quality of your pictures. Welcome!
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:25 PM   #4
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Will - I partially agree with JRMDC's assessment of "third shot." Probably not a RailPictures.net shot, but...I like it anyway, and think it's a good personal pic with some moodiness.

I think the image should be tilted so the vertical lines on the side of the locomotive match the right photo border. Give it some more contrast and brighten it a bit. Sort of like the attachment I added to this post.

Keep it up, man. We'll all get better together.
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:18 PM   #5
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Thanks for the comments, I don't think I'll try to (re)submit any of these images anyways, I personally wouldn't know how to fix up that nose in the first picture with photo editing software.

For the second picture, the crop was a bit to tight for my liking but thanks for the effort.

Third picture I was in a rush to take, crew let us off in the middle of no where between Prince George and Prince Rupert since the engineers were stopped waiting for manual dispatch over the radio so didn't have to much time to take the picture besides it being made up of trees, snow and trains.
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:18 PM   #6
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Will,

If you shot the picture as a jpeg, my guess is the blown out highlights are just that, blown out, but if you have a camera that shoots in RAW, there may be salvageable detail in the highlights.

I noticed that Andrew didn't like the fence in the first shot and I agree with him, but possibly for a different reason. There isn't enough of it there to be anything other than a distraction. If you took the photo wider, and this was a crop, you might do better to include a bit more of the fence and also more of the blue work sign. As it is, the sign just sort of sits in the corner of the frame with no context.

I feel that many railfan photographers often crop too tightly, focusing entirely on the train. Sometimes this is good, sometimes not so good. I think your shot would have benefited from more space around the train. If you can't cut the fence out entirely, leave more of it in, as an element in the photo.

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Old 04-12-2007, 10:38 PM   #7
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Can't really add much to what others have said, except to tell you I really like the first shot (great lighting) and the second shot is pretty good as well. The problem with the first shot is the cropping and mitigating the blown out color on part of the nose. But without knowing what the original looked like, can't really suggest how to fix the crop. I'm surprised the second got rejected. It's a nice view, and I like the wide crop better than the train-centric close crop except maybe for cutting out some of the dark tree area on the left.

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Old 04-13-2007, 05:05 AM   #8
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The original is at http://railfan.homeunix.com/PDRM3211.JPG my camera just takes JPEG so unfortunately no RAW picture to play with.

As for the crop idea, I came up with http://railfan.homeunix.com/photo3.jpg which I like better than the vertical crop.
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