Old 01-20-2011, 05:08 PM   #1
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I've had this rejected for noise/grain,but I can't see it. 320 iso and almost a full crop from the original image,so what am I missing ? If anyone can help with advice I'd be most grateful. Thanks in advance guys.

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Also,I had this rejected for poor lighting. I've mentioned that the main light was supposed to be on the red warning sign,with the train much darker in the background,but it's still bad lighting. What do you think - worth pursuing or drop ?

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I'd be interested in peoples views,as I've always had good advice from the people on here.
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:19 PM   #2
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Why did you shoot ISO 320 in full sun?
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The noise is in the sky on the first one.
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Why did you shoot ISO 320 in full sun?
I'd been taking a few shots further away and the whole area was in shadow.When I saw the train coming I raced to where the sun had come out - forgetting to change the iso in the chaos. Got the shot but it wasn't quite how I'd planned it !!
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Ahh I see. Have you tried a noise remover?
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Actually,looking at the exif data,it appears that I did alter the iso down to 200. Don't actually remember doing that !! Makes the noise situation even weirder. Haven't tried any noise remover yet,just might give it a try when I have time. Thanks.
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Nice shot Dave - boy that red is bright !

I can't see the noise in the sky, but that might be my laptop screen. I can, however, see that the cutting side above the loco and train is a bit 'mushy' - that might be the diffusing effect of the exhaust though as the tanks are nice and sharp.
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After scanning the photo for a while, I'm wondering if the "noise" the screener saw (which is definitely in the sky) is in fact a combination of the distortion effect from the engine's exhaust and some halo-ing from applying a bit too much sharpening. There are a few other places in the photo, like on the bumpers, where it seems a bit over-sharpened as well. Perhaps if you dial back the sharpness just a smidge?

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Judging from some of the recent shots accepted from the UK it appears that grain is almost a pre-requisite. You do need to have a steam locomotive in the shot though!
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More likely you got it from pumping up the color, Over working a shot will do that.
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