Old 08-10-2005, 02:37 AM   #1
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That is my question today. It seems as though cab cars "ruin" pictures that could otherwise be considered good. Here is my example: (Note that this is resized to 800 by 600 and needs cropping. I have a 2592 by 1944 version saved and will use that to reflect any changes you suggest. If anybody could give some input as to what needs to be cropped, please do so. Thanks!) In fact, the cropping issue is the big issue here, although I think this shot is 'ruined' because of the cab car.

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Old 08-10-2005, 03:13 AM   #2
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Does it "doom" a picture? I don't think so; I have taken tons of cab car shots, several of which can be found on this site. As for your photograph (which looks very nice, by the way), I would tighten up on the train as much as possible.
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As for your photograph (which looks very nice, by the way), I would tighten up on the train as much as possible.
Thank you, I will heed your advice while trying to keep some of the bridge in the picture. The bridge is a National Eligible Historic Structure, by the way.

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I would appeal it! Maybe in the haste of screening, the screener thought it was a "going away" shot. The head and ditchlights prove it isn't.
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:46 AM   #5
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I would appeal it! Maybe in the haste of screening, the screener thought it was a "going away" shot. The head and ditchlights prove it isn't.
Hasn't been rejected... at least not at this time.

UPDATE: the photo has been jumped by a later submission, so it's going for a second opinion then.

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Old 08-10-2005, 07:06 AM   #6
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As to whether or not to appeal, I'm 50-50. Appealing to a different screener can work, but I can always make the photo better by cropping it, but I refuse to crop out that bridge, that, IMHO, makes the photo what it is. However, I am clueless as to what specifically to crop out. CDTX_2051, you make a god suggestion.
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It is a nice picture of the bridge, the sun angle brings out the details well ... unfortunately, this site is for trains. When you crop it down to just the train, there isn't much left. It is hard to shoot on the outside of a curve, normally it is best to shoot with a telephoto to show the train behind the curve before the engine covers the rear of the train. Also notice that the engineer's side is in shade.
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Also notice that the engineer's side is in shade.
A lot of angles with Pacific Surfliner (and probably Capitol Corridor and San Joquain) cab cars show the engineer in shade. That extra door bewteen his side and the conductor's side is the reason why. However, with Metrolink, they don't have that door, so it isn't a problem.
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As I have solved my particular problem, the photo has been removed to conserve bandwidth. Thank you.

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