Old 12-09-2006, 06:06 PM   #1
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Hi all,
Where i were watching videos of TGV trains i run through this great video and i wanna to share it here with you all.
So any one know what was the world speed record before TGV broke it?
Here is the link and enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJb-o...elated&search=
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Old 12-09-2006, 06:30 PM   #2
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Nice video. Though, it's kinda cheating with only two coaches, instead of the standard eight!
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Yes, its just the 2 locomotives and 2 cars so the train will be more light to reach ahigh speed like this.
My question is will the train reach aspeed like this if it was with 8 cars and full with passengers?
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With a full set of fully-laden coaches, it may reach 400. But definitely not 500.
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The reason why they had only two coaches is because they wanted to break the record.
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Those French (and Europe in general) really have their stuff together when it comes to rail transit. It's sad that the Acelas max speed, tested to 165mph, is below the normal operating speed of the TGV.

Bombardiers JetTrain turbine loco, built on an Acela locomotive frame, set the speed record for fastest fossil fuel powered train at 205mph. And it did it w/o load.
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Those French (and Europe in general) really have their stuff together when it comes to rail transit. It's sad that the Acelas max speed, tested to 165mph, is below the normal operating speed of the TGV.

Bombardiers JetTrain turbine loco, built on an Acela locomotive frame, set the speed record for fastest fossil fuel powered train at 205mph. And it did it w/o load.
Sadly, I can't see European/Japanese-style high speed rail being adopted in the United States. Though, I'm sure it'll pay itself off, very quickly, on the North East Corridor (and maybe on the corridor between NYC and Chicago). Such a move would more than likely kill off conventional Amtrak services on those routes. However, it would probably also open up more of the market for shorter range, commuter transit, being operated by other private, or public, operators. Win-win scenario.

European-style high speed rail is a pet interest of mine. It's a pity that, apart from the Channel Tunnel Rail Link, it's not even made its way to the UK.
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Though,I'm sure it'll pay itself off, very quickly, on the North East Corridor (and maybe on the corridor between NYC and Chicago).
I doubt a project would pay itself off very quickly at all. To build a TGV style deicated track in the tightly packed Northeast would cost millions upon millions of dollars. I wouldn't be surpirsed if the cost reached tens of billion dollars.

It should also be noted that the TGV and all European high speed rail is state owend and operated at a singnifcant loss. Even the beloved "Chunnel" is a money pit. From wikipedia;

"At completion, it was estimated that the whole project cost around 10 billion, including a cost overrun of 80 percent. The tunnel has been operating at a significant loss, and shares of the stock that funded the project lost 90% of their value between 1989 and 1998. The company announced a loss of 1.33 billion in 2003 and 570 million in 2004, and has been in constant negotiations with its creditors."

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And the idea sounded so good, too!
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I doubt a project would pay itself off very quickly at all. To build a TGV style deicated track in the tightly packed Northeast would cost millions upon millions of dollars. I wouldn't be surpirsed if the cost reached tens of billion dollars.
There was aproject to build TGV line in Egypt too to connest between the north with the south of Egypt with aspeed of 300 kph.
Some people in the ministry of transport said that this project will cost about 10 billion egyptian pound with equal now 1754 million dollars but i donot know why the project stopped after the accident of the fire that caught in the passenger train from about 5 years ago.
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