Old 04-21-2011, 05:30 PM   #1
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No excuses just rejected.. story of my life.

Hello Admin, please explain, it's nice to know why you rejected this. thanks.

If anyone else has an idea please fill me in.
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Old 04-21-2011, 05:38 PM   #2
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Bad cropping, poor aesthetic quality?
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Old 04-21-2011, 05:49 PM   #3
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Is it really? the focus is on the guys, which are clearly railroad related, The trains are in the bg. Does this not hold interest enough? I have seen other shots that seem to hold less interest make it through, but maybe that's just me.
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Old 04-21-2011, 05:58 PM   #4
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I personally like it, but as it is now I think the cropping is too square. I would try removing some of the top to make it more of a 2:3, or even 4:5 shot.
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I think you actually have a couple technical issues, but in the end they are moot due to the framing issue.

That framing issue is that you have tried to merge two elements into a shot even though they were too far apart from each other. The employees are standing at an empty track. So, you went wide to include the engine on the next track over. This left a huge hole of nothing running through the middle of your frame, and resulted in your being too far away from the employees for the picture to feel like it was about them.
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If the train was on the track closest to the people then it would have a chance.

No amount of cropping is going to save this because there is too much dead space in the middle of the frame.

Perhaps you can get the people in, but that would be a long shot.

Go re-shoot it with a train on the close track.

The Site is getting picky and I have been informed that a certain image in my collection that was accepted two years ago, would not be accepted today.

So there you go.
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Lol, do you have their phone numbers, call the rain back to water the ground, catch a break in the clouds for the sun to show..

Thanks for the ideas fellas. I guess if I would have been there a few minutes earlier a train was just leaving the station to head to Ogden..

But I would like to know what the screeners were thinking as well.. with no excuse kind of makes one wonder.
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The Site is getting picky and I have been informed that a certain image in my collection that was accepted two years ago, would not be accepted today.
Which one? And does it include Jimmy Stewart?

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Lol, do you have their phone numbers, call the rain back to water the ground, catch a break in the clouds for the sun to show..

Thanks for the ideas fellas. I guess if I would have been there a few minutes earlier a train was just leaving the station to head to Ogden..

But I would like to know what the screeners were thinking as well.. with no excuse kind of makes one wonder.
This is the actual reason why getting good pictures is fun for me, because it is so hard. So many elements have to come together and you have to be within shootable range at exactly the right moment.

When it does happen it's great. When it doesn't happen, you just have to try again.

Yes, it will rain there again and the sun will come out with the ground still wet and there will be workers on the platform and there will be a train on the near track. Will you be there when all that happens? Who knows. But think how cool it will be if you are and you nail the shot.
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Cropping, lighting, composition, saturation, focus, exposure. Take your pick...
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Bad cropping, poor aesthetic quality?
Now you get out of MY mind! Exactly what I was thinking..

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I like the look on the one guys face. If I didn't read the comment I could think of several explanations for what's going on.

What I think kills it is the dead space in the middle.

The good news is that the train will run again, and the rain will rain again.

And for Hollaran Grade, the accepted one is much better
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And for Hollaran Grade, the accepted one is much better
Why?

I am curious.

I think the new one has some clarity issues now that I look at, but aside from that - what is the allure of the older one?
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The accepted one my eye follows the train into the wild west scenery in the background which I like. Sort of a man vs nature thing.

The rejected one to me, the green fence kills it.
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The accepted one my eye follows the train into the wild west scenery in the background which I like. Sort of a man vs nature thing.

The rejected one to me, the green fence kills it.
LOL!

You got them reversed.

The fenced one is in the DB.

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Which is why I was wondering, because I thought the end of the train version was better, and it might have been - two years ago.
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Lol, well then I say swap them in the DB.
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I'd prefer the delete both of them option. They are both just shots of stack cars and not much else...........
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As a fan of decent end of train shots, I say too bad the other didn't get in, Robert. Although I would crop some off the top.
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You got them reversed.

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Which is why I was wondering, because I thought the end of the train version was better, and it might have been - two years ago.
Yea, they let the wrong one in, why did you even submit that? And how did it get accepted? What exactly are we looking at here?
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Is it really? the focus is on the guys, which are clearly railroad related, The trains are in the bg. Does this not hold interest enough? I have seen other shots that seem to hold less interest make it through, but maybe that's just me.
Well you nearly cut the train off for starters, and it looks as if you were being ''sneaky'' shooting a pic of the employees..
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JB Hunt trailers.

There it was a "wall" of JB Hunt trailers.

I look at those a lot.

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Spoken by an obvious 3/4 power purist.
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Spoken by an obvious 3/4 power purist.
He's not a full-power purist?
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He's not a full-power purist?
Well, he is certainly not a half asser, but his leanings are toward the all power, all the time image.
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Well you nearly cut the train off for starters, and it looks as if you were being ''sneaky'' shooting a pic of the employees..
Sneaky?...
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