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I have more of the VTMC but it was an overcast day for it and i heard that they dont want overcast shots lmao
If it's an interesting enough shot, a cloudy day doesn't matter. Did you happen to take any shots showing more of where these two engines were sitting?

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Because when both your slots get rejected for nitpicky reasons (oversharpened, undersharpened, slightly underexposed) it is rather annoying to have to wait till the next day to resubmit.
Then theres also those good days when you have alot of shots and then you have to wait several days to upload them all.
I currently have tons of acceptable and good (not just 3/4 NS Trash 9 wedgies, i dont bother sending those) shots that i probably will never have a chance to upload.
So submit one a day and be done with it. Why would it be annoying to wait until the next day? Does your life revolve around the acceptance of your shots on RP? Sounds like you need to reconsider your priorities in life.

Last summer, during the month of July, I tried submitting one a day and I found it quite tough to do. Quality over quantity.
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So submit one a day and be done with it. Why would it be annoying to wait until the next day? Does your life revolve around the acceptance of your shots on RP? Sounds like you need to reconsider your priorities in life.

Last summer, during the month of July, I tried submitting one a day and I found it quite tough to do. Quality over quantity.
C'mon, Jim, and everyone else who has chimed in with similar views in various threads in the past, why are some people so hard on those who feel constrained by 2/day? People enjoy their hobby and their participation in different ways. Just because you can't see yourself getting annoyed at the limit were you to face it does not mean that others are not reasonably perturbed. Some people want to upload more often than others, is that so hard to understand?
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C'mon, Jim, and everyone else who has chimed in with similar views in various threads in the past, why are some people so hard on those who feel constrained by 2/day? People enjoy their hobby and their participation in different ways. Just because you can't see yourself getting annoyed at the limit were you to face it does not mean that others are not reasonably perturbed. Some people want to upload more often than others, is that so hard to understand?
I guess the admin/screeners see it differently.
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C'mon, Jim, and everyone else who has chimed in with similar views in various threads in the past, why are some people so hard on those who feel constrained by 2/day? People enjoy their hobby and their participation in different ways. Just because you can't see yourself getting annoyed at the limit were you to face it does not mean that others are not reasonably perturbed. Some people want to upload more often than others, is that so hard to understand?
Because anyone who can only upload 2 a day is limited for a reason. More than likely, because the screeners are tired of seeing poor shots submitted over and over.

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[quote=JimThias;105987]If it's an interesting enough shot, a cloudy day doesn't matter. Did you happen to take any shots showing more of where these two engines were sitting?

Ya i have more of them:
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Because anyone who can only upload 2 a day is limited for a reason. More than likely, because the screeners are tired of seeing poor shots submitted over and over.

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You misread or I was not clear. Sure, the limitation is earned. But people also are reasonable in wanting to get out from under it. It has been expressed numerous times in these forums not just that the limitation was earned but something more, that those people should not have a need or a want to upload more than twice a day. I say in response that such additional expressions are wrong to the point of being absurd, and certainly to the point of imposing values onto others. Some people may want to enjoy their RP participation through frequent uploading of shots - that is different from how others want to participate, but so what. They are warranted in feeling constrained by not being able to do so now, even if the contraint was earned. So criticize them for the past actions that got them into their pickle, but don't criticize them for today wanting to participate on RP in a way that differs from you.

Separately from that, it doesn't help that there seems to be no information as to the conditions under which the constraint gets lifted. (Judging from what I read here, I am not myself under that constraint, nor would it bind me too much if I were, given how seldom I get out to shoot.)
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So submit one a day and be done with it. Why would it be annoying to wait until the next day? Does your life revolve around the acceptance of your shots on RP? Sounds like you need to reconsider your priorities in life.

Last summer, during the month of July, I tried submitting one a day and I found it quite tough to do. Quality over quantity.
Which is what i do. If you think my life revolves around RP just because i have made a complaint about the upload limitations, you are quite mistaken. Indeed in most cases my shots go up on RRPA before i mess with RP. Sure ive also had my days when i could give a damn about RP or could not find the motivation to send anything in, there are also days that i felt like sending 5 shots in, anything wrong with wanting a little flexibility?
You are making it sound like that by uploading pictures to RP, the site automatically becomes the focus of your life. If my life revolved around RP, i would probably have jumped infront of a GEVO a couple of oversharpened rejections ago.
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Which is what i do. If you think my life revolves around RP just because i have made a complaint about the upload limitations, you are quite mistaken. Indeed in most cases my shots go up on RRPA before i mess with RP. Sure ive also had my days when i could give a damn about RP or could not find the motivation to send anything in, there are also days that i felt like sending 5 shots in, anything wrong with wanting a little flexibility?
You are making it sound like that by uploading pictures to RP, the site automatically becomes the focus of my life. If my life revolved around RP, i would probably have jumped infront of a GEVO a couple of oversharpened rejections ago.
No, complaining about a limitation makes it sound like it has become a focus of your life. Why is it so important to submit more than two shots a day?
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And what makes you think its so important, its not like i started a whole thread about it.
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Because when both your slots get rejected for nitpicky reasons (oversharpened, undersharpened, slightly underexposed) it is rather annoying to have to wait till the next day to resubmit.
Then theres also those good days when you have alot of shots and then you have to wait several days to upload them all.
I currently have tons of acceptable and good (not just 3/4 NS Trash 9 wedgies, i dont bother sending those) shots that i probably will never have a chance to upload.
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And what makes you think its so important, its not like i started a whole thread about it.
Because posts like the first one I quoted sound like you're bitching about it.

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To gotransitf59ph; as you can see its easy for a thread to go off on a tangent. The threat of being restricted in the amount of uploads allowed is very real, especially to someone new to the site. Whether or not that is important to you is entirely personal. By posting here and submitting to this site it can safely be assumed that you'd like to get some shots on here. In order to help you with that I'd like to suggest the following. Read the guidelines (sorry if I sound repetative). Look at the type of shots that get accepted. Go back to Islington bridge on a sunny day (early mornings are good for eastbounds, late afternoons for westbounds) because it is a good place close to where you're at and you can walk back and forth a long way to get angle of light/angle of shot the way you want without much visual obstruction. I'm not saying to restrict yourself forever to those parameters, but for now its a good way to keep it simple. Fire away merrily, trying to keep in mind what you're trying to achieve, keeping the guidelines in mind. If you think you've got a sure-fire winner sit on it overnight and look at it again the next day. Many times things will look different the second time around. If you still think it meets the criteria for acceptance submit it. Don't be crushed if it gets rejected, look at the shot again to see if you can fix the reason for rejection (like if it needs a bit of rotation to level the horizon, a bit of sharpening if rejected for undersharpened, a bit of brightening/darkening, etc.). Keep trying, keep learning, ask advice and so on. Once again, good luck.
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Oh yeah, there's one more thing. Many times a shot will be rejected for a certain reason then when that is fixed rejected for something totally different. Screeners work at a rapid pace and will reject the obvious first. Different screeners see differrent things, too. Don't get discouraged. Practice pays off.
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Because posts like the first one I quoted sound like you're bitching about it.

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Theres a difference between bitching about something and it being the focus of ones life.
For some reason i kind of doubt that Jim or any of the other older members here have a 2 per day limit, so i dont think its unreasonable to be somewhat annoyed with the situation.
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Because when both your slots get rejected for nitpicky reasons (oversharpened, undersharpened, slightly underexposed) it is rather annoying to have to wait till the next day to resubmit.
Then theres also those good days when you have alot of shots and then you have to wait several days to upload them all.
I currently have tons of acceptable and good (not just 3/4 NS Trash 9 wedgies, i dont bother sending those) shots that i probably will never have a chance to upload.
Nitpicky rejections? I rarely get a rejection for oversharpened/undersharpened. Perhaps you should pay close attention and review each image prior to submitting. That way, you can try to keep from getting the same 'ole oversharpened/undersharpened rejects. Learn to accept the fact that you only have 2 upload slots a day.

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Ya i have more of them:
I like the first one a lot! A slight CW rotation, a bit of other post processing work and I think you might have a decent chance. Quality seems OK and there are a few things to keep the viewer interested.

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I did a quick edit on the image. You won't be able to use my version, as it is too small in size to submit.

It is still possible it'll be nabbed for cloudy day, but I like it.

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To gotransitf59ph; as you can see its easy for a thread to go off on a tangent. The threat of being restricted in the amount of uploads allowed is very real, especially to someone new to the site. Whether or not that is important to you is entirely personal. By posting here and submitting to this site it can safely be assumed that you'd like to get some shots on here. In order to help you with that I'd like to suggest the following. Read the guidelines (sorry if I sound repetative). Look at the type of shots that get accepted. Go back to Islington bridge on a sunny day (early mornings are good for eastbounds, late afternoons for westbounds) because it is a good place close to where you're at and you can walk back and forth a long way to get angle of light/angle of shot the way you want without much visual obstruction. I'm not saying to restrict yourself forever to those parameters, but for now its a good way to keep it simple. Fire away merrily, trying to keep in mind what you're trying to achieve, keeping the guidelines in mind. If you think you've got a sure-fire winner sit on it overnight and look at it again the next day. Many times things will look different the second time around. If you still think it meets the criteria for acceptance submit it. Don't be crushed if it gets rejected, look at the shot again to see if you can fix the reason for rejection (like if it needs a bit of rotation to level the horizon, a bit of sharpening if rejected for undersharpened, a bit of brightening/darkening, etc.). Keep trying, keep learning, ask advice and so on. Once again, good luck.
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Nitpicky rejections? I rarely get a rejection for oversharpened/undersharpened. Perhaps you should pay close attention and review each image prior to submitting. That way, you can try to keep from getting the same 'ole oversharpened/undersharpened rejects. Learn to accept the fact that you only have 2 upload slots a day.
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To gotransitf59ph; as you can see its easy for a thread to go off on a tangent. The threat of being restricted in the amount of uploads allowed is very real, especially to someone new to the site. Whether or not that is important to you is entirely personal. By posting here and submitting to this site it can safely be assumed that you'd like to get some shots on here. In order to help you with that I'd like to suggest the following. Read the guidelines (sorry if I sound repetative). Look at the type of shots that get accepted. Go back to Islington bridge on a sunny day (early mornings are good for eastbounds, late afternoons for westbounds) because it is a good place close to where you're at and you can walk back and forth a long way to get angle of light/angle of shot the way you want without much visual obstruction. I'm not saying to restrict yourself forever to those parameters, but for now its a good way to keep it simple. Fire away merrily, trying to keep in mind what you're trying to achieve, keeping the guidelines in mind. If you think you've got a sure-fire winner sit on it overnight and look at it again the next day. Many times things will look different the second time around. If you still think it meets the criteria for acceptance submit it. Don't be crushed if it gets rejected, look at the shot again to see if you can fix the reason for rejection (like if it needs a bit of rotation to level the horizon, a bit of sharpening if rejected for undersharpened, a bit of brightening/darkening, etc.). Keep trying, keep learning, ask advice and so on. Once again, good luck.
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It wasn't your fault to go out on an overcast day. No one controls you on your railfanning experience. I go out on overcast days all of the time but usually don't post the shots here (I need to get creative). Besides, if you wouldn't have gone out today you would not have seen that rare move!
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I do like Chase's version, though not to imply that I think it's ready for prime time. I'm not sold on the image quality though.

Honestly, my head might explode if I had a two a day limit. I tend to upload four or five shots at a time, then go a few weeks without uploading. I could probably learn to, uhm, dare I say, ween myself down to two a day, but it would be a bitch to do.

If, for some reason, I were down to two a day, I probably would try to figure out a way to get myself off that limit. I might would stop complaining about it in open forum, for starters.
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The issue of upload limitations. What about new members that got the 2 per day to start? you can't say they've earned that, and it is quite frustrating when you upload 2 shots and they're both rejected and you have to wait until the next day just to have another shot at it. That and the fact that i always get shots rejected have really lowered my confidence here. When i go out to get shots I always come back with tons of shots and waiting days and days just to get through some of them does get annoying. Now as Nikos1 said just because i'm complaining doesn't mean my life revolves around RP. I love photography and i always want to get my shots out there, i only have 3 shots out of maybe 30 shots uploaded.
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It wasn't your fault to go out on an overcast day. No one controls you on your railfanning experience. I go out on overcast days all of the time but usually don't post the shots here (I need to get creative). Besides, if you wouldn't have gone out today you would not have seen that rare move!
Hey man! your right! Thanks! I'm just a new train photographer.. im better at filming them with the camcorder. What do you do with your overcast photos just wanting to know? Flickr?
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