Old 12-08-2007, 07:56 PM   #26
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I can't believe how bad this thing is! I was not too impressed with the 2008 NS calendar this year, but compared to this it looks fantastic.
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Old 12-08-2007, 09:30 PM   #27
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I didn't mean to intend they ALL looked great...obviously the shortened Gevo is pretty bogus, as well as the two matched numbers...oh, and the reflection from the yellow locomotive on the water in the October shot. But come on, look at September...GREAT job with the coloring and perspective.
Yeah, Jim, other than those things....



And the B unit, the YN2 slant on YN3 "paint jobs".... and the other things..... other than those fifteen or 2o little things.....


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Old 12-08-2007, 10:38 PM   #28
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Ha - they wanted to use this photo but I wouldn't allow them to Photoshop the 614 in Dark Future Blue! (kidding)

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Actually, they literally Chessied up a Reading T-1 in (the) paint shop.

I have a few questions that I'm sure others are wondering also;

Out of curiousity, were the above photos submitted with hopes or requested directly by CSX? Or was it a mix? Maybe I need to shoot more diesels?!

It is my understanding that NS Calendars are employee only submissions?
Is this true? How about UP, BNSF, others?

And last - what's the going rate for this nice little honor?
Did anyone negotiate regarding the CSX photos or is there a simple set rate?

Good eye, John.
Thanks for sharing. Congrats to all who made it into the calendar, too.

I wonder if any of those images would've been flagged on RP?

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Old 12-08-2007, 11:24 PM   #29
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Ha - they wanted to use this photo but I wouldn't allow them to Photoshop the 614 in Dark Future Blue! (kidding)

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Actually, they literally Chessied up a Reading T-1 in (the) paint shop.

I have a few questions that I'm sure others are wondering also;

Out of curiousity, were the above photos submitted with hopes or requested directly by CSX? Or was it a mix? Maybe I need to shoot more diesels?!

It is my understanding that NS Calendars are employee only submissions?
Is this true? How about UP, BNSF, others?

And last - what's the going rate for this nice little honor?
Did anyone negotiate regarding the CSX photos or is there a simple set rate?

Good eye, John.
Thanks for sharing. Congrats to all who made it into the calendar, too.

I wonder if any of those images would've been flagged on RP?

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1) Neither, CSX contracted out an ad agency known as The Robin Shepard Group (www.trsg.net) for identifying the photos to be used in the calendar. The ad agency prepared the calendar and submitted to CSX for the final "go" to the printer.

2) NS is an employee only calendar, though they've made exceptions in the past, and it is my understanding they also have another calendar as well as other media that is used on a corporate level. Rulebooks, training manuals, etc. which have historically been a "free for all" in terms of photo sources.

I can't answer on BNSF or UP.

3) The starting offer was $150, though I'm not sure how many actually bickered over the price. When I refused they tried to entice me by upping the ante, but I'd made up my mind that it wasn't going to happen short of $500 or more. (Which I knew wouldn't happen.) I know 2 others that held out and got $350 and $250 respectively.

Hope that helps.

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Old 12-08-2007, 11:33 PM   #30
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Yeah, Jim, other than those things....



And the B unit, the YN2 slant on YN3 "paint jobs".... and the other things..... other than those fifteen or 2o little things.....


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See, I don't notice those things. I'm no locomotive or paint expert...hell, I can't even tell the difference between an AC4400 and a Dash9. They all look the same to me. I've always been a railfan, but I don't really focus on that part of railfanning. I just like to watch and take pictures.

I don't have a very good memory, so I don't bother to try to remember things I know I'll forgot.
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Old 12-08-2007, 11:36 PM   #31
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The BNSF calendar also uses employee pictures
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Old 12-09-2007, 12:14 AM   #32
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Actually, they literally Chessied up a Reading T-1 in (the) paint shop.
That was some photo shopping . . . .
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Old 12-09-2007, 02:03 PM   #33
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I was gonna take the standard $150, but they later said there was going to be no attribution ... well $500 then ... I actually went for $350.

I figured what they were going to do when they wanted to photoshop ... get rid the the bright future ... how fitting.

The least they could do change the numbers when they cloned the images.

Maybe they thought they were going to deal with everyone 1 on 1 ... now there have been threads on RP and TO, and thousands of railfans across the country know the story.

Actually, since my name is not on the image, I'd take the money again next year.
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:51 PM   #34
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That was some photo shopping . . . .
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I'd like to meet Rob Kitchen. I'd be willing to bet he took the photo on the cover of this book I have, most likely taken the same day (I can't find any credit in the book for the cover shot). Then again, if he had, he probably would have uploaded it here. But regardless, obviously taken on the same day:





That's a location I shoot at quite frequently.

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Old 12-09-2007, 04:19 PM   #35
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Jim -

I wish I had taken that photo. That was probably on the Chicago - Grand Rapids turn. I rode it the following weekend when it went from Grand Rapids to Plymouth and back (it had a hot journal on the return trip, and we had to wait for some diesels to rescue us in Lansing).

I was a GTW and Soo Line fan back then, so my knowledge of good C&O locations was limited. My sister and brother-in-law live in Zeeland, and we'll all be getting together next summer. I'll be pumping you for photo spots and timetables then.
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Old 12-09-2007, 05:56 PM   #36
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Boy, do I feel stupid now. I didn't even realize "TonytheTiger" WAS you, Rob. I guess I need to pay better attention to people's sigs.

So, in the photo on the book, that wasn't the same day you got your pics? It's heading east in that photo, 36 miles from Grand Rapids. Did it make two runs or just sit in GR for a week?

I was 10 years old at the time and don't know how or why I missed out on seeing that.

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Jim -

It ran weekends all over the system. I guess it just sat around or was ferried on the weekdays. In this case, on the weekend of July 31 it made a round trip from Chicago to Hartford and back. The train would have been ferried (probably under steam) from Wyoming yard sometime during the week since I road it earlier in July. The photo on the book cover could have been a different excursion turn between Grand Rapids and somewhere west near Chicago. I don't know how tight the schedule was since the locomotive was out of commission late on our Saturday evening when a journal overheated and required a pair of diesels to come and rescue us.

Here is another photo I took on that July trip in 1977 . . . .

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I just submitted another view from Wyoming yard at the beginning of the day of the excursion I rode. Maybe it will be accepted and you can view it as well. I also still have the souvenir program that was handed out to the passengers and a yellow Chessie Steam Special hat packed away somewhere.

Edit: I was reviewing some dates on the internet and I believe that I have some erroneous information and possibly the dates of the trips mixed up (it's been a while, and I'm old!). It may or may not have done a Detroit-Saginaw run, but I do know that I did take my trip on a Saturday in July of 1977. I found a date of July 31 for a Chicago - Harford, MI, turn. In any event, it ran all over the place, and the photo on the book cover is not mine, but would have been taken within a month of mine.
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I like the 4709 with the fake logo added to the nose...

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Is it just me, or did they forget to change the color of the numbers on the second unit in theApril shot?
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Yep, good eye.
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Seeing as this is CSX, you've got to give them credit on photoshopping the cars back on the rails
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Seeing as this is CSX, you've got to give them credit on photoshopping the cars back on the rails
It's about the only way they stay on the rails. . . .
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