Old 11-04-2010, 10:54 PM   #1
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:30 PM   #2
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Yup. Cloudy.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:32 PM   #3
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:34 PM   #4
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I like the ladder track. Go back and shoot there on a nicer day.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:38 PM   #5
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:42 PM   #6
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It is indeed cloudy. They got this one right.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:53 PM   #7
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I was just kidding around, meaning ' OH BOY! ITS CLOUDY! '
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:55 PM   #8
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I just read your other thread about this shot. Joe called the cloudy rejection. No biggie. There will always be trains in Pittsburgh, and according to the weather people, you're going to have sun for a good chunk of next week. Just reshoot it. I was simply confused in my first post as to why you were linking a shot without a question of why it was rejected, but then I read the other thread.
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Old 11-05-2010, 01:43 AM   #9
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I still like the shot a lot. To quote an oft quoted saying here, trains still run in cloudy weather. (They just don't get accepted to RP... usually.) As I have learned time and again, not every shot gets on RP. See also --

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which I posted a thread about here. It's one of my favorite shots lately if for no other reason than I've wanted this angle for years. I've just never caught them spotting a car here before.
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Cloudy days are for other hobbies, or exploring new locations.
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Cloudy. Nothing to talk about. Move on.

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Old 11-05-2010, 04:14 AM   #12
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By that logic Chase, you should have been sitting in the hotel for most of your recent PA trip.......
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One of the most silly statements I have heard lately. You should never discourage people to take pictures, no matter the weather. Some of the most breathtaking images in history have been taken under cloudy conditions. Just because it probably wont accepted to RP is no reason not to shoot! Heck, here are some very nice cloudy examples on railpics:
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I feel like making a blanket statement like that is just foolish. You should never discourage shooting, ever.
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By that logic Chase, you should have been sitting in the hotel for most of your recent PA trip.......
Yes, but that particular image he posted is not really creative in any way. A simple photo that can he redone under better conditions.

Some of the best photos on his site are taken under cloudy skies:

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Old 11-05-2010, 05:25 AM   #15
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Yes, but that particular image he posted is not really creative in any way. A simple photo that can he redone under better conditions.
Everything is subjective with photography. What is simple and uncreative to one person might be cool with the lines leading to the engine, the row of switchers and the tracks going off to the right. It might can be redone under better conditions, but, again, photography is mostly subjective anyway. Ian might be able to go through your portfolio here and find what he considers "simple, uncreative" shots as well.

I figured the shot might get "cloudy/common" as I said in the other thread. That just means a screener here did not like it and bears little on the actual quality of the photograph.

(Of course, me liking the shot is also subjective, naturally.)
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It is indeed cloudy. They got this one right.
If it is going to be cloudy, I surmise that there needs to be some interesting clouds or nice light or something.

I like the shot down the tracks but there is too much building on the left and it is a tad dark.

I agree with chuck, go re-shoot in some better light.

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I am not srpised are you? Come on show us your best, we know you have the eye to do it, Your shots just need better light.
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I agree with Joe that everything about photography is completely subjective and that it is a good shot, just not what RP is looking for. I like the shot because it is RR's doing what RR's do off the main, unglamorous and mundane; the ladder track, the bumpy nature of yard track, the employee on the ground. It's the type of shot that Trains might use for one of their "What Railroads Do" type of articles.

It's also one of those shots with alot going on and alot of little details to look at. To discredit it at first glance because it is cloudy is incredibly short sighted.

In general, there is a formula that, when followed, guarantee's you'll get your shot on RP... basically full frontal sun with no foreground clutter. Stray from that and you may get accepted, and you may not.
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Sounds like Chase is a professional now.




I like the originally posted shot, I would love to see it cropped with the image in the upper left corner, slightly mess with the contrast. Who gives a f### if it gets uploaded to RP, its not a bad shot by any means.
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I am not srpised are you? Come on show us your best, we know you have the eye to do it, Your shots just need better light.
I hear ya. I know I can do better. Now comes the trouble of getting up at crack of dawn for this, waiting for a train to use the ladder track ( which there is only 2 that does, and the local Y103 is the only train to usually use it.. Though Y103 returns to the yard usually at noon, by then the shot is all shadows. It'll be a luck of the draw at that! Eventually I'll get it, even if it takes a few years
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