Old 12-29-2012, 04:19 AM   #1
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Personally I like how this one came out (minus the crappy weather). Not sure how I can "fix" it. Ideas?
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:44 AM   #2
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The train feels a little too squished toward the top. I'd try and bring the train down a bit to hit the 1/3 line, but you run the risk of a blown out sky due to the crappy weather.

Any chence to re-shoot under better conditions?
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:56 AM   #3
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Maybe tommorrow, if the weather is better and the train runs after 12:30. Will be going the other way but that would work too. After that it may be several weeks before the next train goes this way (which is why I was shooting in crap weather)
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I agree with Ween about the train being too high in the frame. Maybe needs less old railroad track in the foreground as well.
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Added more to the top and now bad cropping.....
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Not at all a fan of the contrast-less area around the abandoned track, i.e., most of the image. Go back another day.
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Added more to the top and now bad cropping.....
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There's still too much bland foreground with the train still too far up in the frame.
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Not sure how the abandoned track constitutes bland foreground, its part of the shot and I'm not cropping any out. As for going back another day, unlikely, probably less than 10 more trains will go this way until next winter, and I'll probably be in Atlanta when they run.
I guess this is how RP rewards thinking out of the box.......I guess I'll go upload some GEVO wedge shots, atleast those will get accepted.
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Not sure how the abandoned track constitutes bland foreground, its part of the shot and I'm not cropping any out. As for going back another day, unlikely, probably less than 10 more trains will go this way until next winter, and I'll probably be in Atlanta when they run.
I guess this is how RP rewards thinking out of the box.......I guess I'll go upload some GEVO wedge shots, atleast those will get accepted.
It is not so much much that the track is bland, but the brown boring weeds are very bland. Without good contrast to separate out each strand it seems to just run all together killing any appealing texture. This unsavory feature really hurts the shot. I imagine they are on a similar schedule each trip but if you could get different lighting or a different angle that would bring the texture back in spite of the bland color, you may have a shot. Also, as you pointed out, the sky was no help. Likely a significant contributing factor to the bland foreground. Get a better sky and it all may come together for you. It was a good attempt but it still needs some work. If you can't get it this winter you'll have plenty of time to come up with another game plan in time for next winter. Good luck!
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Not sure how the abandoned track constitutes bland foreground, its part of the shot and I'm not cropping any out. As for going back another day, unlikely, probably less than 10 more trains will go this way until next winter, and I'll probably be in Atlanta when they run.
I guess this is how RP rewards thinking out of the box.......I guess I'll go upload some GEVO wedge shots, atleast those will get accepted.
Sorry to inform you, but there is not a single thought outside of any box here (IMHO). You took a standard shot - not a zillion-times-repeated wedgie, but nothing of compositional note - of foreground element, whatever it may be, and background train. The light was poor and the shot is bland.

I've got a similar shot lined up, just need an afternoon free to go take it. Janusz's rule: if I have taken the shot or conceived of it, it isn't out of the box!
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Sorry to inform you, but there is not a single thought outside of any box here (IMHO). You took a standard shot - not a zillion-times-repeated wedgie, but nothing of compositional note - of foreground element, whatever it may be, and background train. The light was poor and the shot is bland.

I've got a similar shot lined up, just need an afternoon free to go take it. Janusz's rule: if I have taken the shot or conceived of it, it isn't out of the box!
What in your mind is out of the box then? Even if I doesnt fit that definition it did take more thought than many of the photos that are accepted. Certainly more than these from today.

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and how about this piece of work.........a awful colors, awful lighting and above all a shot that everyone who has railfanned in Atlanta has gotten, there are probably dozens of sunny shots from here, I know I have atleast two on here from the same angle...
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Sidenote: I've attached the "in the box" shot for comparison.
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Somebody is way too defensive about his shot.

You love the shot, fine. You obviously have an attachment to the railroad, and the area. We don't. When you get past the love and adoration, it's a poorly lit, poorly composed photo. Nothing personal. Certainly no reason to attempt to piss all over other photographers' work to put your shot on a pedestal.

And your 'inside the box' shot isn't great, either. You should have put way more thought into it.

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Sorry, Nikos, but I find your shot lifeless. Bad light, dull foreground foliage. That will be a very nice shot when taken in good conditions. Even if you somehow get this one through between the cracks, you should not be proud of it, you have many shots much better. It will be very nice, some other time.

It doesn't matter what else was or was not accepted today or any other day.

"in the box" is equally lifeless - it just wasn't a day for those shots.

As for standard wedgies being accepted the first time, I think years of forum experience should tell you otherwise.
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What is this RP reward you are looking for?
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Well apparently people love dull, lifeless, badly composed, badly lit shots judging by the front page pic right now. But I get it, theres no way in hell the shot is getting in, maybe if I had the right name but oh well.
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I don't get it. I like cheese though, cheese is good.
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Not from this planet I guess!

BTW: Nikos just change the date to 1980 or sumthin' and yer golden!
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cheese....with that whine?? C'mon now! haha
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Nikos;

You're kinda being a dick here. We gave you some advice about your shot and the cropping. Most of us mentioned the sub par weather, but I for one thought the shot had a chance. My biggest problem was always the cropping. But you had to go get your panties in a wad and start calling out photographers and shots that really had nothing to do with your shot. Tnen you played the "name" card.

Realistically, if I were a screener, you wouldn't be uploading any new shots here for a while after the Santa Fe F unit episode.
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As a chef, I hope you're being facetious. If not, I'm with Anthony...come on, man!
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Yeah... it all makes sense today, probably the hangover.
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Nikos;

You're kinda being a dick here. We gave you some advice about your shot and the cropping. Most of us mentioned the sub par weather, but I for one thought the shot had a chance. My biggest problem was always the cropping. But you had to go get your panties in a wad and start calling out photographers and shots that really had nothing to do with your shot. Tnen you played the "name" card.

Realistically, if I were a screener, you wouldn't be uploading any new shots here for a while after the Santa Fe F unit episode.
Word.

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