Old 03-17-2014, 08:41 PM   #1
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Question Composition/Balance

Any thoughts on this?

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At least is not a cropping reject

I have more on all sides and frames before and after this.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:05 PM   #2
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Thinking that I had the engine to close to the left edge I recropped.

Now I got the BC rejection.

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Old 03-17-2014, 11:25 PM   #3
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I think they dont like the dead space on the right. I kind of like the first one as-is, but I guess that dont matter. Not a fan of the second one at all.
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Hit for cropping again. I added some on the left to the original which was hit for comp/balance. No avail...

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...56&key=3790341

What am I missing? Should I try a vertical???
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:16 PM   #5
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Looks a little "Tall". (boxy vs rectangular)

I'd change the aspect ratio (make more rectangular) and bring the engine down a bit, and then crop tighter but not as tight as previous.

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I think they dont like the dead space on the right. I kind of like the first one as-is, but I guess that dont matter. Not a fan of the second one at all.
I agree with Troy. However, I think the problem with that crop is you don't have any fall color.
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I agree with Troy. However, I think the problem with that crop is you don't have any fall color.
And no spring color and a b/w engine. Should I try grayscale if my latest and last submission of the day fails? Would a vertical crop be better?

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I agree with Troy. However, I think the problem with that crop is you don't have any fall color.
I kind of disagree, if there was any foliage, you wouldnt see the river. As it is, you kind of see the outline of the river, and that's why it works for me
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I kind of disagree, if there was any foliage, you wouldnt see the river. As it is, you kind of see the outline of the river, and that's why it works for me
Sure, but my point was intended to be more about that particular composition/crop. Even with the river hidden by foliage, if that exact crop had been submitted with a full array of fall colors, it wouldn't be an issue. I think snow stuck to all the trees would have the same impact. Without snow or fall colors, all that dead brown is unattractive, and they are probably looking for a tighter crop because of that.
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Tried Mitch's idea. Still got a cropping ding for this

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What is the screener looking for? Does this image not conform to the "Rules of Cropping"?

What am I doing wrong in regards to cropping?
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They obviously dont like the dead space on the right. So I think if you want that shot on, you are gonna have to do some sort of vertical crop and omit just about the entire right side of the frame
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They obviously dont like the dead space on the right. So I think if you want that shot on, you are gonna have to do some sort of vertical crop and omit just about the entire right side of the frame
Something like this?

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They'd probably be jazzed if you did something like this...

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They'd probably be jazzed if you did something like this...
jazzed (adj.) excited or delighted

Jim, I don't know if I should take this advice seriously or not. I do however have a salt shaker nearby.
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They'd probably be jazzed if you did something like this...

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I think this is where its at. I'm pretty jazzed about it.

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I think this is where its at. I'm pretty jazzed about it.

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jazzed (adj.) excited or delighted

Jim, I don't know if I should take this advice seriously or not. I do however have a salt shaker nearby.
"Jazzed" is an adjective used in one of my favorite 80s movies. Skip to 1:21.

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They'd probably be jazzed if you did something like this...
Not jazzed. Still cropping.

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I'd go just a bit tighter...

Not a fan of Jim's, nor El Roco's crop - engine still sits a bit high in the frame.

Jim's might work if you crop a bit of the bottom and even less of the right.

Or... starting from scratch based on your first submission - I'd try this:
Imagine what I'd try... for some reason I am not able to upload the image.



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Since when??

JPEG 97.7 by 800 X 600 max?
And even at that resolution, no luck.

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What does this mean?

Sum of all attachments owned by Mgoldman: 64.87 MB

Why would I care? Am I suppose to delete old attachments to fit new ones?

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What does this mean?

Sum of all attachments owned by Mgoldman: 64.87 MB

Why would I care? Am I suppose to delete old attachments to fit new ones?

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I had trouble getting an image to upload also. After several failed attempts, I just copied the rejection link.

BTW, I will be out in Strasburg next Friday. Do you think the railroad will be steaming out to the NS interchange to pick up any freight? I see the LS car will be running on Friday according to the schedule.
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What does this mean?

Sum of all attachments owned by Mgoldman: 64.87 MB

Why would I care? Am I suppose to delete old attachments to fit new ones?

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I was just wondering yesterday when I attached the image above when I'd reach the limit. I think my "total sum" is in the mid-50 meg range right. I always try to keep the file size of the attachments under 400 KB.
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That's because you cropped out the second post on the left. Without it there, the remaining post has no context.
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