Old 11-06-2008, 05:15 AM   #51
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I see your wheels started to spin, but then the hamster died.
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:40 AM   #52
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I was standing on a concrete base that holds a signal bridge in place, to get this shot. the crew(who waved), and the people sitting on their porch(not in the frame),also Didn't seem to care. Most people around here see me standing track side with a camera hanging on my shoulder and wave because they know what I'm doing.
It was integral to the composition I was looking for.
That's great, but it is in no way comparable to what cockyboysd40 did.

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Old 11-06-2008, 02:49 PM   #53
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I always remember bumping into a guy at around Cresson, PA., back in 1997 or 1999 who proudly told me he'd taken the libery to rummage through stored position light signals at AR tower (CR kept them for spare parts). Helped himself to a few of the signal heads as souviners as he was movong out west. Why some feel they have a God given right to be on RR's property (and take whatever they please) is beyond me. I believe most or all RR's have rules banning employee's from being on the property unless they are on duty, so even their employee's aren't welcome.

We're not supposed to be there, but most RR's seem to tolerate railfans. However, blatant, in your face trespassing will pretty much ensure the rest of us get alot of grief simply standing at a crossing with a camera.
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Old 11-08-2008, 04:37 PM   #54
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That's great, but it is in no way comparable to what cockyboysd40 did.
I almost thought you left out the y in cocky upon first reading.


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We're not supposed to be there, but most RR's seem to tolerate railfans. However, blatant, in your face trespassing will pretty much ensure the rest of us get alot of grief simply standing at a crossing with a camera.
I say probably 39 of my 41 pictures were taken at crossings, usually I will walk up the tracks if its a wide open area, and I never get on the tracks. I was sitting on the roof of my truck once parked trackside and a Virgina State Trooper drove by and didn't do anything so...
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Old 11-08-2008, 06:44 PM   #55
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I think I'm stuck in between..

I do find locomotives interesting, but can't identify them other than obvious stuff like GP9's, a GP38 or those ever famous GP10's.. I can tell older EMD's from GE's, but that is about it.. Newer locomotives have me baffled. Because of where I am and where my daily routine takes me I rarely see trains (once every few months at best), so I will take anything I can get. I am just grateful I get to see them.

Photography is a rather expensive hobby, IMO (upfront cost that is). Since I don't have a reliable camera I don't usually waste too much of my time taking pictures. My interest lies with shortlines, unfortunately there seems to be a void when it comes to RPN on that subject which makes it a challenge to find good photos with clear skies and level horizons...
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:13 PM   #56
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However, blatant, in your face trespassing will pretty much ensure the rest of us get alot of grief simply standing at a crossing with a camera.
I'd be willing to bet at LEAST half of the pictures on this site were the result of blatant, in your face trespassing...somewhere...at some point.
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:19 AM   #57
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I know that about 2% of my pics on this site were on top of signals, and of my latest 30 (not including signals) there is 1 from railway property. I'm actually pretty good most of the time (who wants a wedgie from 5 feet away, anyways) but I do have my moments where I go a little extra ways to get the shot.
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I'd be willing to bet at LEAST half of the pictures on this site were the result of blatant, in your face trespassing...somewhere...at some point.

Trespassing is trespassing, but safely crossing the ROW to get better light vs. climbing on a signal or welcoming yourself into a yard, etc?

12 of 115 makes 10.5% if you count crossing the ROW or just being closer than the 50'. If you're going to go through the trouble to risk 'blantant' trespassing, take the time to ask first. You may actually reap more benefits in the long run...speaking from experience. The worst that will happen is you'll get a no, and could get anything in between.
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Old 11-09-2008, 02:39 PM   #59
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I think there is a huge difference between standing safely on what is railroad property but not on the ROW versus climbing onto a piece of RR equipment, signal or otherwise, to get a shot. The former seems like driving faster than the speed limit but moving at the same speed as all the traffic while the latter seems like going the wrong way on a one way street.
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Think of it this way: what's the difference between climbing on a signal to get a shot and climbing on/into a parked train to get a shot?

Nothing.

I doubt anyone would do the latter, so why is the former somehow acceptable in anyone's mind?
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:26 PM   #61
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I was all over the railroads property last month, at Cass Scenic Railroad!

The Railroaders' job is hard enough, why make them worry if you're going to jump in front of their train?

I always do my best to stay at least 20 feet from the track, and wave to acknowledge that I do see the train.

I find it hard to believe people actually climb on trains and signals for shots! One false move, and you're somebody's bad memory for life...

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I was all over the railroads property last month, at Cass Scenic Railroad!

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Oh come on, that doesn't really count, Cass Scenic or any scenic for that matter isn't a real railroad.
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I'm sure everyone here has trespassed, and are still trespassing. I'm sure I do, I haven't been called in, nor do I know of any railfans that have here. I mostly stand at crossings anyway since I am usually chasing a train. I never have climed on a signal before, I used the concrete block that held the signal bridge in place on one of my shots since it was the only way I could get the elevation I needed.
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Trespassing is trespassing, but safely crossing the ROW to get better light vs. climbing on a signal or welcoming yourself into a yard, etc?
If you've placed ONE toe onto RR property, you've trespassed. Driving 1 mph over the speed limit is still considered speeding, yet everyone does it.
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If you've placed ONE toe onto RR property, you've trespassed. Driving 1 mph over the speed limit is still considered speeding, yet everyone does it.
I agree, hence the 'trespassing is trespassing.' My argument is only driving that 1 MPH over (safely crossing the ROW)vs. driving 55 MPH through a school zone (climbing on a signal or equipment.) Besides that, I don't know ANY cops that will bust you for 1 MPH over.
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I agree, hence the 'trespassing is trespassing.' My argument is only driving that 1 MPH over (safely crossing the ROW)vs. driving 55 MPH through a school zone (climbing on a signal or equipment.) Besides that, I don't know ANY cops that will bust you for 1 MPH over.
Irrelevant. Breaking the law is breaking the law.

And I still stand by my estimate that at least half of the shots on RP came by way of trespassing to some degree.

And we all speed as well on the way to those photo spots. Except, of course, the guys who ride their bikes.

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And we all speed as well on the way to those photo spots. Except, of course, the guys who ride their bikes.
Officer: "You know what the speed limit is sir?"

Me: "No, I didn't see any signs"

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