Old 01-29-2010, 03:09 AM   #1
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From time to time a crew forgets to close a door. Some locomotives don't have A/C and an open door is their solution.

What should we do?; run up and close it??? Contact them over the radio? Have railroads weld the doors shut and crews exit through windows?

As a railroader, I always left the door open, even in cold temperatures. Sometimes you exit and slam it behind you and it doesn't latch.

What is the reasoning behind an open door considered as a "Poor Esthetic Quality" on here?

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Old 01-29-2010, 03:12 AM   #2
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Rest of the photo probably wasn't very strong. There are many open door shots on rp.

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Old 01-29-2010, 03:15 AM   #3
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What is the reasoning behind an open door considered as a "Poor Esthetic Quality" on here?
Sometimes it isn't a matter of reasoning, sometimes it is a matter of preference. RP likes what it likes, doesn't like what it doesn't like, ultimately it is their website.

Open doors don't bother me much, personally, although it does depend on the shot.
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I love open doors. Adds character.
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I get really cheesed when someone critiques a photo of mine and says "Auto PEQ Open Door" because A. Its obviously not, and B. Its RAILROADING people not phoney baloney photoshoots!
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It's a funny thing... I almost never even notice it on standard cabs... it's only when I get home and look at those shots that I go... wow... open door... With wide cabs, it's more obvious of course, and with cab units, it's really distracting... that being said, my personal feeling is that if it's not a straight on roster shot, it doesn't matter.

But my personal opinion also doesn't matter.
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From time to time a crew forgets to close a door. Some locomotives don't have A/C and an open door is their solution.

What should we do?; run up and close it??? Contact them over the radio? Have railroads weld the doors shut and crews exit through windows?

As a railroader, I always left the door open, even in cold temperatures. Sometimes you exit and slam it behind you and it doesn't latch.

What is the reasoning behind an open door considered as a "Poor Esthetic Quality" on here?
As Freericks said, it seems to only be with the wide cabs. More specifically if the logo on the nose is compromised by the door being open.


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My first and probably only door shot.

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I must admit that I like seeing open doors, adds character and another dimension to the story of the photo.

If it doesnt get accepted there are plenty of other websites that would be more than willing to host your photo for you.
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Personally, I like a standard cab with the door open. But if it is a wide cab, keep it closed.

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B. Its RAILROADING people not phoney baloney photoshoots!
Wrong. The doors on a steam locomotive are so far back from the photographer it doesn't matter if they are open or not.

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Contact them over the radio?
Just so anyone reading is clear, it is illegal for non-employees to transmit on the RR frequencies, so no railfan should consider this an option.

Open doors don't bother me one bit, but if you are shooting roster shots, those seem to have their own set of rules which have evolved over time.
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Wrong. The doors on a steam locomotive are so far back from the photographer it doesn't matter if they are open or not.
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Here is my open door shot....
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Wrong. The doors on a steam locomotive are so far back from the photographer it doesn't matter if they are open or not.

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That made no sense. Steam engines have doors...umm cool? The reference was to photo shoots where everything is planned and perfect. Sorry you've never been yelled at to "shut the damn door" while working a photo shoot.
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Open doors on full width noses kill it for me, Standard cabs without air on most of them I can see and don't mind the doors open.
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Open door wide nose (what the heck... Loyd made me do it).

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Just so anyone reading is clear, it is illegal for non-employees to transmit on the RR frequencies, so no railfan should consider this an option..
Re-read. He says he's a railroader...

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Re-read. He says he's a railroader...
It's good advice for wayward youngins, though
I rarely have the problem of open doors here. If you open a door, you get frostbite.
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Open doors on full width noses kill it for me, Standard cabs without air on most of them I can see and don't mind the doors open.
To me, its all a matter of context. As mentioned in the remarks the connie apologized when he saw me taking pictures. IMO it just made it more authentic in this situation.

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