Old 12-31-2011, 07:59 PM   #1
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Trains Magazine this year is sponsoring it's annual contest once again this year and the theme is: Shadows.

Judges will be looking for intriguing composition and effective use of light, as well as inspiring and creative images. Images must be from 2011 and received by Jan 31, 2012.

http://trn.trains.com/Interactive/We...20Contest.aspx

Putting it off to the last minute, I finally had a chance to review a good portion of my images from 2011 and was surprised to find I had ZIP! Finally get around to entering a contest and had nothing, d'oh!

Anyone have images with creative use of SHADOWS on RP - ANY YEAR at all???

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Old 12-31-2011, 08:40 PM   #2
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I have one.



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Old 12-31-2011, 08:50 PM   #3
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I have one.
Or do you? Where's the shadow?

I have many silhouettes but few shots with the focus on creative use of shadows. Not that that wouldn't prevent such a shot (or any other, lol)
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Mitch do you know if international entries are accepted? If so do these qualify.

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Old 12-31-2011, 09:18 PM   #6
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Well, the competition theme is "Shadow and Light" with further description as "judges will be looking for intriguing composition and effective use of light, as well as inspiring and creative images."

Here are a few that I believe apply.

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? Maybe?

I guess it's open for interpretation?

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Mark - I believe international entries are accepted and e-mail makes it just that much easier to give it a go.

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Well, the competition theme is "Shadow and Light" with further description as "judges will be looking for intriguing composition and effective use of light, as well as inspiring and creative images."
Peter - the theme is "Shadow AND Light", not "Shadow OR Light", lol. While I've often seen winners of a theme go way - w a y - off track, I think they are in fact looking for effective use of shadows WITH intriguing light and composition.

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Old 01-01-2012, 01:29 AM   #9
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I think this contest counts me out. I can't remember a shot I took which qualifies.
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Well, if we're all looking for something in our portfolio to submit, we can narrow our search by ruling out anything we've posted on RP. The words "shadows" and "distracting" are practically synonymous here!

The closest I come are:

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Upon further review, that second frame would not qualify. It is from 2010, but posted in 2011.
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It's entirely possible that the winner could be an RP reject.
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Kevin-Submit that third shot to the contest! I think it has a great chance.
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Well, if we're all looking for something in our portfolio to submit, we can narrow our search by ruling out anything we've posted on RP. The words "shadows" and "distracting" are practically synonymous here!

The closest I come are:

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Upon further review, that second frame would not qualify. It is from 2010, but posted in 2011.
After crossing everything and hoping I just got this one accepted and think it is more to the theme.

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Old 01-01-2012, 06:37 AM   #14
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Here are my shadow shots. Not taken in 2011 though

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I was thinking I might try this one just for kicks. I'm thinking maybe with it being a Moffat and being sorta different it might make it past first cuts but I'm not thinking it will really win. Who knows, maybe I will be surprised. But this is really my only shadow shot on RailPics... I may have a few rejects that could get submitted.

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I'm thinking I may put money on Kevin's shot of the rotaries. That's an amazing shot with interesting shadow composition. Also, its rotaries so it's obviously a winner. Unfortunately Kevin, I'm not a judge for Trains so you can't rely on my vote.

Anyone know if storm clouds can count as shadows? Storm light count?
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I have a few.

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I need to reupload this one. It looks bad the way it is.
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This one from 2011
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I'm not sure about this one?
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Maybe these?
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Too bad it's only shots from 2011. I've always liked the shadows from the wires on the smoke from 1225. It looks like the wires are bending:

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Mark - I believe international entries are accepted and e-mail makes it just that much easier to give it a go.



Peter - the theme is "Shadow AND Light", not "Shadow OR Light", lol. While I've often seen winners of a theme go way - w a y - off track, I think they are in fact looking for effective use of shadows WITH intriguing light and composition.

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What are you saying? I'd love to know if/how my images are off topic.
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What are you saying? I'd love to know if/how my images are off topic.
Like I said, given what I've seen in previous contests - just about any off topic subject has a chance of winning.

I don't see a shadow in your first two pictures what so ever and on your second two, while I don't see a shadow, I will concede that the trains are "in shadow". I have a few silhouettes and backlit shots - technically, they could be considered shadow shots and win grand prize I suppose. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I think (would hope) that the judges are looking for examples more akin to these as seen at "Wiki" under "Shadows":










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One more on Wiki under "Shadows" - thread limit was 3 images per.



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Mitch, it's all in one letter. Shadow or shadows. The contest says the former and as such at least three, if not all four of mine, are on topic.
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Mitch, it's all in one letter. Shadow or shadows. The contest says the former and as such at least three, if not all four of mine, are on topic.
Well, it's all semantics, to some extent, but there is an issue of importance to the image. I would say the night has now shadows at all, certainly nothing noteworthy. Just some engines with the usual artificial light. A nice shot, but I see no connection to the theme. Put differently, how is this night shot differentiated from any other night shot, what makes it special in terms of light/shadows? Just as just about any daytime shot has some shadows in it, doesn't mean every shot is a candidate for a contest where shadows are of importance.

The CTA shot, sure it has shadows, as all shots do, but I don't see anything that makes them notable in the composition. I don't look at that shot and think, hmm, interesting shadows. It has interesting light. Now, if you reprocessed it so that the trainman is better highlighted, by darkening the sides of the train, you might have something where shadows are being used to strong effect. But then you lose the building reflection glint. Which is great but not my view of what the contest is likely to be about.

I think that is what Mitch is getting at. It is where I have gotten at!
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This theme hit at the wrong time for me, because I didn't get out nearly as much in 2011 as I would have liked, and when I did get out, I wasn't particularly successful, especially locally. One of the big things I like to capture is what I call shadow/light interplay where shadows and light combine to create intriguing and dramatic compositions. In a normal year, I'd have quite a few to choose from that would be potential winners, but this year the trains just refused to cooperate and I have pretty much nothing. Really disappointing to have a weak entry on a contest theme that is normally my strength.

I think part of the beauty of these themed contests is that the photographers who submit do have the freedom to interpret the theme how they want and the judges who award the prizes also have the freedom to interpret the theme as they wish. So as long as you feel a shot demonstrates in some way an emphasis on Shadow and Light, then you can't go wrong. They don't have a wall of shame where they mock photographers who they feel miss the point of the contest. You simply win or you don't. There's no point in discussing whether Peter's shots fit or don't fit the theme of the contest because it's entirely irrelevant in the big picture...none of us are judging. And after seeing the results of the judging in past years, there's always a few shots that I feel completely miss the point of the theme whereas the judge clearly felt differently.
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Also, it's easy to get tunnel vision about these themes and not realize just how broadly they can be interpreted. I hope people continue to post photos on this thread of possibly submissions showing creative shots that may help people realize they have more shots that fit the theme than they originally thought.

Case in point is this shot. Like I previously mentioned, I love to shoot shadow/light interplay and have a pretty fixed opinion about how those shots should look and how they fit the theme of the contest. However, while considering the theme, another shot jumped into my mind which was completely different than my "standard" shadow/light shot, but it fits the theme entirely. Unfortunately it's an extreme crop and won't have the technical quality to be submitted, but I want to share it just as an example of a shot that was out of the box at first glance, but after consideration, fits the theme very well. IMO, of course.

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