Old 10-16-2012, 07:26 AM   #1
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Default Aren't night photos supposed to be dark?? :)

Rejected account too dark:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...58&key=6310146

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...59&key=5455372

I thought that night photos would be dark account that is the nature of the beast...although they likely would be rejected for grain anyways .

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Old 10-16-2012, 11:26 AM   #2
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Yes, they're suppose to be dark...but not that dark. Looks like you used a flash and the reflective stuff got you. I like the concept you were going for but your ISO is was too high causing the irreparable noise level. Your best bet is to find a parked engine. Drop your ISO to 100-200 and use a spotlight/flashlight to light the engine get the reflective effect you were going for. That should get you closer to satisfying the demands of the infamous RP screeners. Good luck!
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I like the idea of using the built-in flash, especially with a US flag unit... but the high ISO kills it, here.
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I like the idea of using the built-in flash, especially with a US flag unit... but the high ISO kills it, here.
Yes, the sky is way to grainy.

Lower the ISO and decrease the shutter speed.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:19 PM   #5
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At the risk of being snarky and offensive, I'm not sure what it is about those two shots that made you think, "Hey, these would look great on RP." They are too dark. I coiuld have told you that almost without looking at the shots based solely on the number of times I have heard people say about night time shots, "Aren't they supposed to be dark?" But the grain is way beyond acceptable and the color is off, too.
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Yes, they're suppose to be dark...but not that dark. Looks like you used a flash and the reflective stuff got you. I like the concept you were going for but your ISO is was too high causing the irreparable noise level. Your best bet is to find a parked engine. Drop your ISO to 100-200 and use a spotlight/flashlight to light the engine get the reflective effect you were going for. That should get you closer to satisfying the demands of the infamous RP screeners. Good luck!
As stated, either stop the action or have the action stop for you. unless you are using flashes at which it is possible to light up a moving subject without blur/streak and use of an extremely high iso.

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using available light and a million candle spotlight for detail and foreground light at 70 seconds and 200 iso will yield a result such as this.
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Also, your horizon is a tad off. But like the people above said, alot of noise is present in the photo.
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I was after the effect of the reflective stripes glowing in the dark and not wanting the whole unit showing.
Something kind of like this?



This unit was parked and I used a flashlight to illuminate the graphics.
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Right you are Jim...but with the wings on the nose showing as well. The next train came by when it was totally dark and I did get a shot like yours, but again with too much grain. Next time out there in the dark desert I'll try again....

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In my opinion, the whole getting the reflective stripes lit up is pretty unappealing, it looks like those terrible shots on RRPA where people go out in the middle of the night and shoot trains with the built in flash. Maybe a time exposure with flash to highlight the reflective decals? I suppose the idea behind the original photos would work if you could pull it off at a reasonable ISO.
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Right you are Jim...but with the wings on the nose showing as well. The next train came by when it was totally dark and I did get a shot like yours, but again with too much grain. Next time out there in the dark desert I'll try again....

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Go to Tempe Town Lake and get it just before it comes across the bridge.

Here is a shot from the Peavine

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Thanks for all of the comments!

I have done night shots for decades ....

Thanks again guys...

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One has to shoot just right to get good night shots, The best cameras still work best if overexposed some so in PS you pull the shot down to dark. Going the other way KILLS it with grain.
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