Old 01-14-2014, 07:57 PM   #1
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I like these shots that show the end of the Pomona Yard. I tried to do a rule of thirds with the trains but obviously I'm not doing it right. Any suggestions for either? I do have room on all sides. My angle may be wrong for anything to work other than a wedge but that defeats what i wanted to do with the shot. Trying to expand out and learn new shots.

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weeeellllll.....
1. those are not adhering to rule of thirds, especially second one. divide photo into thirds vertically and horizontally. in this case, face of loco should be at crossing of those lines.
2. the subject in these photos is the tracks. the take up most of the visual space and weight. you need to reduce that emphasis if you want them accepted here. this is like a porno site for foamers. they don't want to look at the tracks. they want to see the "good bits."
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Old 01-14-2014, 08:24 PM   #3
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Yes, I do understand you mean by the face crossing on the grid and I didn't do that very well in either shot. But unfortunately that will just turn it into a wedge. Which is what most people want to see here it seems anyway. I can't get over any further really to get the face in the correct place with the rails. I just thought it looked interesting, especially the Amtrak shot, as you can see the unlevelness of the rails with the telephoto compression.

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Old 01-14-2014, 08:25 PM   #4
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.........this is like a porno site for foamers.
*Click* Yes, I am 18.

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Old 01-14-2014, 08:47 PM   #5
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2. the subject in these photos is the tracks. the take up most of the visual space and weight. you need to reduce that emphasis if you want them accepted here. this is like a porno site for foamers. they don't want to look at the tracks. they want to see the "good bits."

Um, well.....


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But yes, In the case of the two rejections mentioned in this thread, too much track and space on left. Train way over to the right.
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If you had something of interest or a supporting element to balance out the composition, you could get away with position of the train in relation to the balance of the photo. In this case, the empty space and the top right placement really doesn't work and really throws the balance entirely off.

Hope this helps!

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Old 01-15-2014, 01:00 AM   #7
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Thanks again for the help.

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Old 01-15-2014, 01:54 AM   #8
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In doing a composition, also look to the edges.

Make sure the objects on the edge of the frame are either in or they are out.

In the original composition, the far left track you cut off the far left rail and that wrecks it.

Here is my take.

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Thanks Dennis. after reading the suggestions here, I had come up with something very similar to what you have. I was deciding if I wanted to submit or not. I probably will tomorrow. I don't have an online hosting account anywhere or I would attach it to this message. Guess that should be my next thing to do.
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At RP, you can post directly, you do not need a hosting account.

Go to Reply to Thread.

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Come back to Reply to Thread.

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I see now, I was using the "quick reply" and the option to attach a file is not listed there. Only under the main Post Reply section. Learned something new and useful.

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2. the subject in these photos is the tracks. the take up most of the visual space and weight. you need to reduce that emphasis if you want them accepted here. this is like a porno site for foamers. they don't want to look at the tracks. they want to see the "good bits."

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But yes, In the case of the two rejections mentioned in this thread, too much track and space on left. Train way over to the right.
Apples V. Oranges, obviously. In Tom Flarence's shot, the point of the shot is obviously the tracks. In Trey's shots, what I noticed right away was the trains are too high in the frame, too.

About wedgies, these are wedgies no matter how you crop them. Besides, don't be hatin' on the wedgies!
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I realized it was apples and oranges at the time. I just thought it was funny that at the time of Hatchetman's post about this site being porn for foamers and them not wanting to look at tracks, the top shot was a section of track. That's all.
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Apples V. Oranges, obviously. In Tom Flarence's shot, the point of the shot is obviously the tracks.
Where is Flarence's shot? I'm combing this thread looking for it...

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Is Jim taking the day off? Either your photo is unlevel or some roadmaster needs to lose his job.
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Is Jim taking the day off? Either your photo is unlevel or some roadmaster needs to lose his job.
Didn't feel like piling on this time.
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