Old 03-13-2011, 05:05 PM   #1
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This was rejected for high sun. The photo was taken an hour or so before dusk so did the screener select the wrong rejection or do I just not see it. Possibly over sharpened?

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Old 03-13-2011, 06:04 PM   #2
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I dunno. I see on the side facing you the shadows are right over the trucks, which is a sign of high sun, but I can also see a more pronounced shadow on the other side.
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Old 03-13-2011, 06:46 PM   #3
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It just looks really washed out, the way that high sun makes colours work. Don't take SOO 6060's advice on exposure next time
(Note: I looked at the exif, and you shot it at 200 ISO, 1/640, F/7.1. This sounds suspiciously like 1/500, F/
Anyways, you might be able to bring it back down, especially if you shot RAW - But the light seems to have been a bit hazy as well, so it will need a fair bit of work not to look flat.
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Cropping is too centered.
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The crop is too tight in my opinion. I don't really like the angle.
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Yea it's to light the hit the wrong one.
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It just looks really washed out, the way that high sun makes colours work. Don't take SOO 6060's advice on exposure next time
On a PnS " f stops " is a guess by the camera, Who knows what it was for sure.
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Unlevel as well. The lighting angle looks fine to me, but as Matt pointed out it, the image looks a bit washed out. Not very good color or contrast. Fix that up, crop a little more off the left and level it, and it may make it.
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I dunno. I see on the side facing you the shadows are right over the trucks, which is a sign of high sun, but I can also see a more pronounced shadow on the other side.
I don't see high sun as the killer. Look at the shadows of the grab irons on the nose and under the coupler/pilot...they are not long and straight down. The chain link shadow on the nose and the handrail shadow on the longhood...both visible; usually if it's true high sun, those shadows are missing/not visible. There's also no long, vertical shadow under the radiator flare. So shadow-wise, nothing screams "high sun" to me.

But it does have a washed-out look as Hicks-y said, which probably lead the screener astray. Assuming the EXIF is set correctly, 1709L is typically not in the window of high sun...
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Don't take SOO 6060's advice on exposure next time
Don't just blame me:

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1/500 at F 8 iso 200 is a good spot to start 1/500 can handle 50 MPH But if i am shooting snow plows i go for the highs i can. I see it made it in!
http://forums.railpictures.net/showt...631#post111631

I mean, are you really trying to start something?

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Looks like one of my photos, which is not a good sign. Maybe sun was behind some of those wispy clouds?
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http://forums.railpictures.net/showt...631#post111631

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No, Not me but thats right its just a start at testing to get a right exposer, No thats not a full daylight exposer ( Full sun ) for 200 iso as you don't want to be to dark but don't want blow out the highlights ether. Set the exposer to what the Historygram shows. Read this
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tu...stograms.shtml
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http://forums.railpictures.net/showt...631#post111631

I mean, are you really trying to start something?

(I'm not)
That was a YEAR ago...your post was in the last week. Therefore, I totally get to blame you. =D
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:31 AM   #14
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No, Not me but thats right its just a start at testing to get a right exposer, No thats not a full daylight exposer ( Full sun ) for 200 iso as you don't want to be to dark but don't want blow out the highlights ether. Set the exposer to what the Historygram shows. Read this
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That was a YEAR ago...your post was in the last week. Therefore, I totally get to blame you. =D
Ok, the post I wrote a week ago was giving the same advice as MILWMAN. When I made that post, there was no speak of High Sun, Low Sun, or no sun, they were talking about a sunny day in decent light. Maybe my camera is screwed up- who knows. I can only post based on my own day to day experiences.
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Do I hear a noise? A persistent whine, rather high pitched? Or am I hearing things?
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It just looks really washed out, the way that high sun makes colours work. Don't take SOO 6060's advice on exposure next time
(Note: I looked at the exif, and you shot it at 200 ISO, 1/640, F/7.1. This sounds suspiciously like 1/500, F/
Anyways, you might be able to bring it back down, especially if you shot RAW - But the light seems to have been a bit hazy as well, so it will need a fair bit of work not to look flat.

Yep, it does look flat. I use 1/640 simply because that seems to be the magic number for reducing blur.
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You should follow Goldman's Rule of Wedgies which states that you should either let the train trail off in the distance or be cut off by brush or buildings. It looks like you should have panned just a hair to your right, not center the train so much and not wasted anyone's time with that watermark. Too much sky as well.
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