Old 08-16-2007, 02:26 AM   #1
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This shot was rejected for high sun earlier today and I'm not sure why. The train came back at about 4:30 in the afternoon. It is slightly sidelit, but I don't think it detracts from the scene.

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Old 08-16-2007, 02:51 AM   #2
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I don't see a problem. I suggest appealing.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:53 AM   #3
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I don't see a problem. I suggest appealing.
The short answer is that I agree.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:04 AM   #4
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At 4:30 PM today in Chama, NM the sun was at about 40 degrees above the horizon. I do not believe that constitutes high sun.

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Old 08-16-2007, 03:07 AM   #5
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Don't forget, when you appeal, to give a reason! Point out the shadow line on the caboose, for example, or the well lit (but not well seen) running gear.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:26 AM   #6
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Don't forget, when you appeal, to give a reason! Point out the shadow line on the caboose, for example, or the well lit (but not well seen) running gear.
The shadow line on the caboose is a negative for me. The top-to-bottom shadow gives the appearance of high sun. The shadows of the people to the left are about the same length as they are tall, so it's borderline in my book...
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The shadow line on the caboose is a negative for me. The top-to-bottom shadow gives the appearance of high sun. The shadows of the people to the left are about the same length as they are tall, so it's borderline in my book...
What is wrong with 45 degree sun angle? That is not high sun!

The shadow line on the caboose, well, different responses for different people. But that is hardly a reason to keep this shot off RP; much worse gets on. I think the engine is nicely lit and the scene looks good.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:37 AM   #8
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I really like this shot. Ther shadows do not district in my opinion and the colors are fine. The sun might not be full on the nose, but that doesn't detract from it.

And, Ween, if this was a BNSF engine lit like this, you knowyou'd love it!




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Old 08-16-2007, 12:30 PM   #9
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When you appeal it, don't forget to level it. Not only is the old structure on the right in the background leaning, but the caboose and building on the left in the background are leaning, too. I'd level based on that building along the left edge of the frame.

Another vote for NOT high sun.
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Thank you all. I have appealed it based on your comments and will wait to see how it turns out.
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The appeal has been processed and the photo accepted.

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The appeal has been processed and the photo accepted.
You didn't level it. .6 degrees CCW is about perfect.

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Old 08-17-2007, 12:43 AM   #13
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I have re-submitted an improved version of the picture to your specifications of .6 degrees CCW.
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Excellent. It's a great shot.
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