Old 12-09-2013, 05:24 PM   #1
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The photo below has been PEQ'ed.

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What is your opinion? Should I appeal or should I let it go?

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Old 12-09-2013, 05:53 PM   #2
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The girl needs to be in focus, not the trains

Let this one go. The facial expression is wrong, the lighting is wrong, the scene is wrong.

Sorry

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Old 12-09-2013, 06:14 PM   #3
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The PROBLEM with the rejection is that the same rejection did not apply to hundreds of other images that WERE accepted. That's what is throwing you off. Mixed between, it would seem perfectly acceptable.

On it's own merits - I'm not a big fan.

The girl is cute, her expression fine, but I do not like that I can only see a sliver of the steam engine - just seems cut too tight. The background - grassy field with a lone light pole is not appealing and the contrast between the warmth in the background vs the cool blue in the foreground, while interesting, I do not personally find appealing.

Now... if for reference you had an identical (or similar) scene to share that this image is based on, that might be another story.

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PS - More "interesting", or perhaps appealing power might help. While I'm not familiar with those engines, an analogy for an American variant might be commuter trains vs what most find more appealing on RP - universally recognizable motive power. Then again, the portrait benefits the motive power in the photo as captured.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:27 PM   #4
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Light is terrible. Ok, not terrible; unsatisfying. One diesel overexposed. One steam nose dark. Steam engine cut off. I could go on.

But the reason it is PEQ, in my view, is that it looks POSED, in an unsubtle way, and RP does not go for that.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:36 PM   #5
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It's a staged photo. She isn't naturally there. She doesn't care about the train. So now it becomes a photo of the girl instead of the railroad scene, which is fine, but not for this site.

As noted by others, you also have lighting issues that can't be fixed.
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Am I the only one that thinks the girl definitely isn't old enough to be called "cute" over the internet?

Let this one go. Good idea, end result = not so good.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:19 PM   #7
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Not very interesting imo, the girl has nothing to do with the trains. Seems like an interesting enough set up with the locos alone.
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..her expression fine
The pose and facial expression conveys fearfulness and creates a tension in the scene that doesn't suit the image. She's also not in complete focus, which is a terminal failure for portrait work (unless purposely done for artistic merit).

The image is somewhere in the middle of an eh train photo, and a bad portrait.

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Am I the only one that thinks the girl definitely isn't old enough to be called "cute" over the internet?
My guess is that you are the only one not to realize that the word "cute "takes on somewhat different meanings when applied to a young child vs a near adult or adult.
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No, I fully realize that. But it's just a tad different over the internet where emotion/expression are not clear.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:58 PM   #11
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I don't know anything about portrait photography but I think you are supposed to use a flash or something.
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My guess is that you are the only one not to realize that the word "cute "takes on somewhat different meanings when applied to a young child vs a near adult or adult.
I was about to note the same thing. Geeze... what exactly is this world comign to these days?
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As a parent, I took nothing negative or inappropriate in the use of the word "cute" to describe this girl. But like others, I don't see the relationship within the frame between her and the frame. It'd make a neat family portrait, I am sure, but not a RP-worthy photo. The reject is legit to me.
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Old 12-09-2013, 11:00 PM   #14
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She looks like she would much rather be playing with dolls or whatever it is that little girls do, than watching trains. Very awkward looking.

And I think it's safe to say that ALL children are cute to their parents/relatives/girls-women without children
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Many thanks to all of you for your feedback. I must admit that I agree with all of your comments and recognize that the reject is legit. So I will keep this one in my private collection. And yes, the scene was posed. The parents of the little girl were making the photos, may for a birthday celebration?
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Many thanks to all of you for your feedback. I must admit that I agree with all of your comments and recognize that the reject is legit. So I will keep this one in my private collection. And yes, the scene was posed. The parents of the little girl were making the photos, may for a birthday celebration?
ńs a portrait you could have used a flash to "fill" her face, but it would do nothing for the shadows on the engine hoods, unless it was a very powerful flash.

The flowers look odd and out of place.
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Old 12-11-2013, 03:48 AM   #17
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Cute little girl but this photo does not work for here and Mitch is ranting again and Wyatt is out of touch with reality.

Did I miss anything else?
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I like the idea, but as mentioned above...the lighting and facial expression kills it. The composition does too.
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She's too young.
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Cute little girl...
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