Old 12-07-2011, 08:06 PM   #1
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This is driving me nuts. This rejection and "bad colour" really puzzles me sometimes...

Which way is most likely desired...?

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Old 12-07-2011, 08:22 PM   #2
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maybe they saw the car in the billboard.
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Old 12-07-2011, 08:30 PM   #3
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It needs 0.000000000001 degree CCW rotation. Either that , or what the Hatchet said.
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hmm...I'll flip - call it in the air....
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hmm...I'll flip - call it in the air....
I'm calling....calling for help! LOL!
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:26 PM   #6
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Yep, I think it's leaning ever so slightly to the right... so CCW rotation.

You should also try either lowering the color temp. or easing up on that saturation slider. The nose of the leading loco looks especially candy-landed to me, although that often happens with CN units.

Is that a foreman in the distance?
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:34 PM   #7
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That's easy: it needs a CCW rotation about half the thickness of the pubic hair of a piss ant. That'll make it just about right.....and you'll be sure to get it accepted.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:05 PM   #8
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I'd say about .25 to .5 ccw perhaps

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Old 12-07-2011, 10:14 PM   #9
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I cant really see it, but I didnt throw it on a grid.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:30 PM   #10
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Yeah, maybe a tiny bit of ccw, but that is so close.....
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:33 PM   #11
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I'll echo what others have said - it's obviously a few hundredths of a degree unlevel CW. I almost lost my balance looking at it!

I noticed such on hundreds of images in the database and I'd suggest a full review of all pictures in an attempt to keep things consistent.

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Old 12-07-2011, 10:37 PM   #12
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I say flip it 90 degrees at leave a smart note to the screeners. But I have a poor attitude....Though the pubic hair of a piss ant may be more appropriate!
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Yes. Slight CCW rotation. I looked at the pole on the billboard and it is just so slightly leaning right.
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Old 12-08-2011, 02:46 PM   #14
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This is driving me nuts. This rejection and "bad colour" really puzzles me sometimes...

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Old 12-08-2011, 03:38 PM   #15
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Well I see this crooked ol' thing finally made it on...

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I say flip it 90 degrees at leave a smart note to the screeners. But I have a poor attitude....Though the pubic hair of a piss ant may be more appropriate!
I actually flipped one 180 degrees and resubmitted it once as a protest of the "unlevel" thing a few years ago. It was rejected without comment....so I did it again (I was REALLY ticked off...). This generated a direct e-mail exchange----and I gave them a "Come to Jesus" talk on what I thought of their interpretation of that particular image.

We worked it out amicably, of course, but I still speak my mind and offer my honest opinions. In truth, it's not a good thing to go totally nuts on people, particularly for something this inconsequential. It goes back to the thing John West and I have stated: we've already judged our own photography when we uploaded it, so it's not necessary to nit-pick it to death.
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I have stated: we've already judged our own photography when we uploaded it, so it's not necessary to nit-pick it to death.
That thought reminds me of a quote I recently heard - "Most individuals are not stupid but people are". Lol. Are you suggesting RP change it's philosophy to better mimic that of RR Picture Archives?

The screening process is just fine , so long as it is consistent. Perhaps we need a better appeal process - one with a little more leeway when the perceived flaw(s) are not a technical issue.

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...Are you suggesting RP change it's philosophy to better mimic that of RR Picture Archives?/Mitch
No, I'm not. As I understand it (I never visit that site, by the way), it's a totally unscreened site. No matter how horrid your photos, you can post them there. Correct?

I do think there should be more discretion in the screening process, particularly toward those who might have demonstrated over many years of accomplishment a proclivity to create acceptable train photography. Stated differently, I don't think many veteran photographers are tolerant of "helpful suggestions" from those who don't have anywhere near the same number of hash marks on their sleeves. It's called paying one's dues.

I suspect this could be interpreted as some form of self aggrandizement, but that's certainly not my intentions. Other "senior" contributors to this site have expressed similar frustrations, both on and off the forums. It's a source of some angst for many---far greater than any concerns I might have expressed here.
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It just so happens I checked out RRpicArchives just this week. I registered and then decided to see if I could upload a picture. What you get when you do that is a screen that says they are limiting new contributors to 10 or so a week, and that they are particularly looking for people who can cover less covered locations, and photos before 1990.

They then ask you to upload a sample picture and tell them a little about yourself and where you shoot, etc.

I uploaded a mediocre picture to see what happens. No word back from them yet...
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I uploaded a mediocre picture to see what happens. No word back from them yet...
...If it's mediocre they seek, they would LOVE my images! I may dig out a few more thousand from the closet and start scanning...
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Well I see this crooked ol' thing finally made it on...

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Still not quite level....
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Looks level to me.
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Wow, Jim thinks an unlevel shot is level? Mark the calendar. Look at the post of the billboard. It's leaning right, still.
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Wow, Jim thinks an unlevel shot is level? Mark the calendar. Look at the post of the billboard. It's leaning right, still.
You're going overlook a handful of level verticals because of one that is barely unlevel? Perhaps it's an artifact of wide angle distortion. The rest of the verticals, all the building structures, look level. That's the first thing I checked and to me the billboard pole in inconsequential.
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Yes, its straight. :P
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