Old 06-02-2009, 12:50 AM   #1
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Can you all provide me with any important feedback to getting these pictures accepted? Before being overly eager as I have been a little bit, I would like to take this approac. Thank you.
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Old 06-02-2009, 01:36 AM   #2
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The shot of NJT 4122 is decent, but the color is bad. The entire shot has a greenish tint to it. If you do some color correction you may have a shot.

For all the others, I don't think the spot you chose worked. Out of the four, the shot of the 4426 is the best. However, the color is still a little off and you did cut off the end of the train.

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Thank you for the feedback Chris. For the F40, I adjusted the color temp to make it natural blue, and for the 44 and multilevel, I did the same. Trying to understand the difference each time. Here are attempted corrections.

In one of your sentences, I remember you were saying that the other ones might be tough to get in. Are there any ways to increase the chances of getting them in. The 46 and Multilevel doesn't look too bad to me, but I know I can make it better.
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Thank you for the feedback Chris. For the F40, I adjusted the color temp to make it natural blue, and for the 44 and multilevel, I did the same. Trying to understand the difference each time. Here are attempted corrections.

In one of your sentences, I remember you were saying that the other ones might be tough to get in. Are there any ways to increase the chances of getting them in. The 46 and Multilevel doesn't look too bad to me, but I know I can make it better.
The contrast looks a bit off in the image of the F40.

I have a feeling this will turn into a familiar thread we had a few days ago.

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I hope not. I don't want anyone putting me down, especially accusing me of not working hard enough, when I really am.
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Old 06-02-2009, 03:41 AM   #6
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Give us more of the train! If the location is lacking on eye candy, the more train you can put in the frame, the better.

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I agree with Loyd. We need more of the area or its just a stock roster shot. If the location doesn't lend itself to showing more then I'd find a new spot.
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The shot of 4426 I agree with Chris is probably the best one. Problem is you have nearly cut off the entire rear of the train, you need to point your camera more to the left on that one. Looks like it just needs some sharpening though, except for the composition being off some.
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Here's the 4426. I actually had some space on the end of the consist, but I added a little more. There's actually part of a sign. Tried to sharpen it some more, as well as adjust color. Still might not be exactly there.
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Regarding the F40 shot, I agree with Chase that you need to increase contrast. Notice how the picture looks flat, with nothing really popping.

For the 4426 shot, the sign is a killer. There's no way it gets accepted with the sign like that. Unfortunately, that seems like it was a really tough spot to shoot at, since you couldn't get the whole train without including the road or the street signs. You may want to crop the shot right at the end of the sign, but I doubt it will get it, since it will be missing the end of the train.

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Old 06-02-2009, 03:47 PM   #11
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Chris and everyone,
Thank you for the feedback, both the good and bad. Regarding the 4426, I will crop as much of the sign out that I can. Their will be very little space after the last car of the train. I will submit it.

For the F40 shot, the contrast, I noticed is still out of line. I use Picasa software, and their is a contrast key which I'm trying to get a better understanding of.
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First problem is the colour/contrast, second problem is the composition (cutting the train off) and third is clutter. Fourth is fixable even more easily, and that's levelling.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:16 PM   #13
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Here are some changes to the 4129. I not only had to fiddle with the contrast and color a little, but had to lighten it.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:35 PM   #14
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For the F40, I adjusted the color temp to make it natural blue...
Please help me understand why you're adjusting the color temp to make it more "natural blue".

What is the WB setting you are using?
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:36 PM   #15
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May I inquire as to what lens you use? Make and focal length would be a big help. One thing that is very noticeable is lack of contrast and soft images in most of your posts. I'm beginning to suspect the lens is a possibility. The D70 sensor has a weak alias filter on it and is very sharp with a good lens even with in camera sharpening set to "0". I know, I had one up until recently. I could be wrong on the lens thing but, we cannot rule anything out at this point.
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Well, the shot of the 44 and Multilevel set was accepted.

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Red Granite, my wb is automatic.

The Road Forman, I'm using a type G lens, which is a wide angle one.

Here is another shot of mine that was rejected for bad contrast, but I adjusted it in the attached shot below.

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What is the focal length of your lens?
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18 to 70 mm. I normally use a wide angle lens.
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18 to 70 mm. I normally use a wide angle lens.

18-70 is a wide-to-tele zoom. The shots being discussed in this thread appear to be mid-range or perhaps slight tele, not wide at all.
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I was in a Borders Books yesterday, and they had so many books in the digital photography section. I will purchase one. I know I will benefit from a lot of them, especially ones that explain how exposure, aperture, and shutter speed overlap.

If I could have feedback on what to do to get these two attachments accepted? Thank you.
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First shot looks like it need more room to breath on the back. 2nd shot needed to be panned a little to the left, showing maybe more of the other track, and getting the train more into the right 1/3 of the shot. It's just a bit too close to being near the center.
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NYSubway18, thank you. I made a few adjustments to the PL42, especially trimming some of the space to the right of the loco.
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Every shot is composed exactly the same way. Same focal length, light, aperture. Change things up, keep us interested.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:53 AM   #25
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I don't want too be too creative. Maybe, I will change my aperture to a number above 10. On my camera, it goes to as far as 32.

One question, when I shoot high speed trains, what aperature should I use. For shutter speed, I know I should do something like 1/1000 or above, especially if the train is doing 135, especially the Acela at Princeton Jct, right?
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