Old 05-18-2009, 04:44 PM   #1
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Interesting essay written by someone at lensrentals.com

http://www.lensrentals.com/news/2009...-industry-2009
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:05 PM   #2
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He isn't kidding lens prices are up - how 'bout $28,999 for a Sigma?!?

Sigma 200-500mm f2.8

(the thing looks like a small tactical nuke!)

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Old 05-18-2009, 06:11 PM   #3
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Interesting, I can't afford to buy crap. I recently bought the Canon 100-300mm lens for just over $300 and you get what you pay for. At 250-300 it needs a tripod, but seems to be a good lens none the less. I've spent more money of software lately and that's been well worth the money.

But spending $1500 for the Canon 70-200mm IS lens is just way beyond me anytime soon, unfortunately.
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:34 PM   #4
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I agree, recent price increases do put a hurtin' on the wallet. But, remember that good glass will hold its value much longer than any camera body. If one would buy a $3k body this year it will sell for $500 in 3 years, a good quality lens will not depreciate in value anywhere near the pace of a body. Another reason for this, sensor technology is still evolving at a great pace as opposed to glass technology, the companies are almost to the point of sensors out resolving their best glass.
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:57 PM   #5
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But spending $1500 for the Canon 70-200mm IS lens is just way beyond me anytime soon, unfortunately.
All it takes is patience, Dave. If you can save $300 in a couple of months for a lens, just extend that savings plan for another five months or so and you'll have $1500 for a lens.
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All it takes is patience, Dave. If you can save $300 in a couple of months for a lens, just extend that savings plan for another five months or so and you'll have $1500 for a lens.
Or get the f/4L IS for $500 less. Lighter with newer glass and a better IS than the f/2.8L. Just sayin'...
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Or get the f/4L IS for $500 less. Lighter with newer glass and a better IS than the f/2.8L. Just sayin'...
Well, that all depends...do you want to shoot inside? At times I sure wish the 100-400 was f2.8. The lens would totally rock if that were the case.
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Well, that all depends...do you want to shoot inside? At times I sure wish the 100-400 was f2.8. The lens would totally rock if that were the case.
Have you ever used a 400/2.8? The fixed focal length Canon is a great lens but it is a beast! A zoom would be no smaller.
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Have you ever used a 400/2.8? The fixed focal length Canon is a great lens but it is a beast! A zoom would be no smaller.
Haven't used it, but I'd love to have one! My birthday is in 2 months.

And lens size really doesn't bug me. It is professional equipment...extra size and weight is to be expected, so I don't let it be a factor in using it. As long as I can sling my camera and lens over my shoulder while tresp...err, I mean hiking, I'm good.
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Well all of my lenses are f3.5 or more. I really want that f2.8 lens for DOF and speed. Someday it'll happen. Plus I'd like to get a good lens for shooting macro and flowers. I need to seel my soul to the devil I guess!

I'm just lucky to have as stable job in todays economy, even though I took a 10% pay cut, thanks Govenor Arnold!
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I am also an avid "hiker". Dave, although I use Nikon, how does your 100-300 fair in terms of distortion?

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You know I haven't really played with it too much. I've only hand held it so far. Here's two I took one day at West Colton Yard, all handheld. But I don need to do some testing with it too see how it works and it's best settings. These are all at 300mm.



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Haven't used it, but I'd love to have one! My birthday is in 2 months.

And lens size really doesn't bug me. It is professional equipment...extra size and weight is to be expected, so I don't let it be a factor in using it. As long as I can sling my camera and lens over my shoulder while tresp...err, I mean hiking, I'm good.
$7000 plus a new tripod thats much larger to hold it. I would love to have one to but not at that price.
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Have you ever used a 400/2.8? The fixed focal length Canon is a great lens but it is a beast! A zoom would be no smaller.
A beast indeed!

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Well, that all depends...do you want to shoot inside?
Yeah, because trains run inside!

But, the 4/L IS does fine inside. See:

200mm handheld 1/8 IS on:
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Same settings, but IS off:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3199/...6db0f177_o.jpg

1/8s. Are you really gonna be shooting slower than that with the f/2.8L inside?? Hmmmmm....
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I just purchased a 24-105 for $1099.00. It was $879.00 a month and half ago.
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This just makes me happy that I picked up my new lenses when I did, though I wish I'd gotten that 300 f/2.8 now.
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How about used equipment? All of my lenses are used except my POS 18-135mm toy lens. I find used to be the way to go so long as you're prepared to wait for something decent to pop up. Of course, all of my stuff is manual and either prime or telephoto, so the used market may be different for your fancy AF zoom lenses. If the cost of new glass is up, I suppose the used stuff would be pulled up as well... either by people holding onto their stuff causing a tightening of the used market, or by sellers simply raising the price in step with new equipment.

I'm glad I have most of the glass I want... except for a 400 or 500mm tele; lenses I have a hard time finding used and a harder time justifying!
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$7000 plus a new tripod thats much larger to hold it.
That's what they make monopods for.

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Yeah, because trains run inside!

But, the 4/L IS does fine inside. See:

200mm handheld 1/8 IS on:
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Same settings, but IS off:
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1/8s. Are you really gonna be shooting slower than that with the f/2.8L inside?? Hmmmmm....
Sure, it does fine inside with static subjects, but what if you want to shoot moving subjects without having to totally blitz your ISO? I'd love to have the 2.8.
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Sure, it does fine inside with static subjects, but
what if you want to shoot moving subjects without having to totally blitz your ISO? I'd love to have the 2.8.
Well, luckily for me, the DVD/VCR combo I shot as an example doesn't move around too much!
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Well, luckily for me, the DVD/VCR combo I shot as an example doesn't move around too much!
Unless, of course, it fails to record your favorite TV show.
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Unless, of course, it fails to record your favorite TV show.
Ehhh, I can watch my shows on the 'net. Thanks, Hulu!
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