Old 06-21-2008, 03:15 AM   #1
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Hello all. I need some help on cropping of 2 pics that have been rejected.

Here's the first http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=357499696 I appealed it and their response was Admin Comments >> There is way too much dead space on the right side of the frame.

New cropped photo http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=539226&key=0

Last one http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=931627431

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Old 06-21-2008, 03:24 AM   #2
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The second version of the photo is much better, but there is still too much empty space on the bottom though. Try cropping with a little less and resubmit.

As far as the similar reject I assume it is to this one, which is in my opinion a little better so there isn't much you can do.

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Old 06-21-2008, 03:28 AM   #3
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Hey Brad, I think they might be looking for something more like this:
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Hey Brad, I think they might be looking for something more like this:
Maybe they are, but any crop that loses the nice hay bale on the right is a step back for me. It loses too much of the environment; the train is going through farmland. I like the second shot as it is, the hay bale, the nice shadow in the foreground indicating the bridge the photographer is on. I even like the bit of field on the left - maybe I shouldn't, maybe it pulls the eye away from the subject, but I just do.

It all gives it more of a feel of the train in a region rather than the train in trackside foliage. An environmental wedgie is way better than a plain wedgie.
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Old 06-21-2008, 01:23 PM   #5
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Maybe they are, but any crop that loses the nice hay bale on the right is a step back for me. It loses too much of the environment; the train is going through farmland. I like the second shot as it is, the hay bale, the nice shadow in the foreground indicating the bridge the photographer is on. I even like the bit of field on the left - maybe I shouldn't, maybe it pulls the eye away from the subject, but I just do.

It all gives it more of a feel of the train in a region rather than the train in trackside foliage. An environmental wedgie is way better than a plain wedgie.
I agree 100%. But for THIS particular shot, he's not going to have much luck with that extra scenery due to the placement of the train. Had it been closer, and the bridge shadow not in the bottom corner, then all that great stuff in the background wouldn't have to go. But unfortunately, he shot the train too far back and unless he crops it tighter, losing the "nice" stuff in the field, I doubt they are going to accept it.

According to his exif, he shot that at 7:51 am. An hour later (if that's possible) would put the sun high enough to reduce or eliminate the bridge's shadow, allowing the train to be closer and the field in the background to be included.

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I re-cropped the pic and here's what they said.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=210527105
Thanks for the input, I'll keep trying
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try reducing the brightness of the yellow on the nose a bit, it looks a little too bright.
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I re-cropped the pic and here's what they said.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=210527105
Thanks for the input, I'll keep trying
Brad, can you get a train there an hour or so later when the sun is higher and you can include the field in the background? As also stated above by Janusz, I think that composition would work better.
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Brad, can you get a train there an hour or so later when the sun is higher and you can include the field in the background? As also stated above by Janusz, I think that composition would work better.
Not from that direction. The next train would be 12pm, although the sun is high that time of day. High sun shots don't get accepted. I can go to ground level and eliminated the shadows of the bridge. Thanks Jim
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Not from that direction. The next train would be 12pm, although the sun is high that time of day. High sun shots don't get accepted. I can go to ground level and eliminated the shadows of the bridge. Thanks Jim

Maybe find a day it's running late? Not sure if VIA runs like Amtrak...
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